Hilver Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Playing a Big Club (Precision style)You hold:♠K Q 7 5 3♥9 7 4♦J 9 2♣10 4 Your partner opens 1♣, Your RHO bids 1♦, You bid 1♠ (= 5/6-card ♠, 5-8 HCP).LHO passess, and partner rebids 2♦(= GF). RHO passess and You bid 2♠. LHO passes again and now partner bids 3♦(= denying any 5+-suit). So the bidding:1♣ - (1♦) - 1♠ - (pass)2♦ - (pass) - 2♠ - (pass)3♦ - (pass) - ?What do You respond now? Thx Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I am bidding 3♠, I do not see any alternative. If I bid 3NT, the contract will be most likely wrongsided, (besides I only have a half stop in their suit), 3♥ would show either 4card suit or Hxx. If P bids 3NT i pass, if he makes a cuebid I will bid 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 and now partner bids 3♦(= denying any 5+-suit). Uhhuh, and what would 2NT have shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 So, has he categorically denied spade support? He's had two chances, although the first one reasonably wants to set the game force before showing suits (not sure I like it if I can't make a descriptive bid because I *have to* set the GF, though), the second one, if it's just denying a 5-card round suit, doesn't help. Assuming that he has denied three spades, you're kind of stuck. Provided that you have another initial call for ♠KQTxxxx, I guess 3♠ is least bad - partner's going to take you for 6, but you have no diamond stopper (and don't really want to be declarer in NT anyway) and the 5-2 is probably better in your suit than the 4-3 heart fit. This is the reason I play "p/xx NGF, systems on" after 1♣-(1♦) - not that it's going to be any better, except that 1♣-(1♦)-1♥ (showing spades) sets the game force, so we are one call ahead of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilver Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Uhhuh, and what would 2NT have shown? 2NT would have meant 22+ HP, balanced; not more then 2 spades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 2NT would have meant 22+ HP, balanced; not more then 2 spades. So 3♦ shows (a) exactly 20-21 balanced or (b) exactly 1444 shape? Then logically we should be playing 3♥ = transfer to 3NT and 3♠ = transfer to 4 hearts. I bid the transfer to 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Partner wants to know more about your hand, and I don't think he's fishing for a second suit.Most likely he has a ♠ fit (he should have set trumps earlier), or possibly a big balanced hand(can 2NT be 25+) With no control to show, I would just bid 3♠ or if the ♠ fit is "guaranteed" I can see bidding 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Is the auction not smoother if I rebid 2NT? This presumablly shows "something" in diamonds but should not need to show a full stop. Now if partner comes back with 3D I can bid 3S having shown exactly 5 spades and a half-stop in diamonds - seems a reasonable description, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevek Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 3♥, having denied 4.This allows me to bid 3NT over partner's 3♠ to show my ♦Jxx or partner to bid a delayed 3NT instead with his ♦Qx. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Yeah 3H seems obvious. We cannot bid spades a 3rd time on 5332. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 I think that maybe 3♦ should already promise some half stopper. If he has completely empty diamonds he should've preffered raising spades with two of them, I mean he may have AKQ and AKQ in round suits but it's still not enough for GF so with Hx of spades he could've raised and with Qx(x)/Txxx of diamonds he would bid 3♦. I am bidding 3NT as I don't want partner to visualize Kxxxx KQx xx xxx and going for heart game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilver Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think that maybe 3♦ should already promise some half stopper. If he has completely empty diamonds he should've preffered raising spades with two of them, I mean he may have AKQ and AKQ in round suits but it's still not enough for GF so with Hx of spades he could've raised and with Qx(x)/Txxx of diamonds he would bid 3♦. I am bidding 3NT as I don't want partner to visualize Kxxxx KQx xx xxx and going for heart game. Openers hand:♠ A x x♥ A K 10 9♦ A 10 x♣ A K Q 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcohio Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Partner already GF with 2♦, the 3♦ bid should be stopper seeking. Having extras and a fit in your suit (that you bid twice) I see no reason for the 3♦ call... 3♠ should show his hand nicely here. If you have a max you'll cue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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