daveharty Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Nobody vul, IMPs. You hold: AJ9xAT9xxxAKx Partner in first seat opens 3D. What if anything do you bid? What is your plan? If you bid 3H (forcing by agreement), partner bids 3NT. What then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I will try 4c over 3d, rkc in d. I strongly dont expect pard to have the Ace of clubs here so just bidding 5d is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 With what hand would partner bid 3♠? In other words, what does the failure to bid 3♠ mean, in your partnership/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveharty Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 With what hand would partner bid 3♠? In other words, what does the failure to bid 3♠ mean, in your partnership/Undiscussed. This is a pretty new partnership that hasn't gone much further than new suits below game being forcing and 4D is RKC. Would you suggest 3S as a fragment, or a possible entry, or some other meaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 A lot depends on your style of preempts in first seat. I'd probably bid a forcing 4♦ over 3N and give up in 5♦ unless partner bids 4♠ where I'll bid 6. 3N in my world shows absolutely no interest in ♥, singleton or void. You need a miracle to make a slam here, KQ, x, QJ10xxxx, xxx or Kx, x, QJxxxxxx, xx would do it. QJ10xxxx and the A♣ is insufficient on a trump lead, so the complication of whether 5♣ would be A or K is irrelevant, I'm signing off anyway. Most of the time if I bid 6 I'm worst case on the spade finesse for this, but K, x, QJxxxxx, Qxxx would be bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 sorry i dont really get 4d as 100% forcing or key card,. Is this expert winning bridge today? 3d...4d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveharty Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 sorry i dont really get 4d as 100% forcing or key card,. Is this expert winning bridge today? 3d...4dMy mistake...4C would be RKC for us after a 3D preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Undiscussed. This is a pretty new partnership that hasn't gone much further than new suits below game being forcing and 4D is RKC. Would you suggest 3S as a fragment, or a possible entry, or some other meaning? Presumably anything above 3NT agrees hearts, likely shortness but remotely a King. In this specific auction, using 3♠ as a fragment allows Responder to check on the majors with 5-5 without bypassing 3NT. But, this seems less frequent than the more common "I have long hearts and possibly slam interest in your suit" issue. In that event, 3♠ as a call that advertises "more" makes some sense. Alternatively, 3♠ as a stopper would mean that 3Nt denies a spade stopper, which is somewhat related usually. This would carry a slight message, then, when Opener bypasses 3♠, of a possible club card that is unmentioned, or even a club suit. If I had to pick, I'd go with Kx or a fragment for a 3♠ call, such that 3NT denies that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 If I held 55 in the majors as responder, I would start with 3♠, not 3♥. This is a WTP 3♥ and anything else is bizarre.I don't think I'm playing anything but 4/5♦ or 4♥ on this. Over 3♥: 3♠ shows something in the suit for NT, but I think it can be an advance cue for hearts too and has no interest in 3N. 3N shows something in clubs. 4♣ should mean "I love hearts", although without discussion its probably a 2nd suit. 4♦ obviously is none of the above. 4♥ is a doubleton heart. I've actually discussed a similar auction with one of my regular partners and we agreed that a direct raise specifically shows doubleton support. With 3 card support, in this context we bid 4♣ over 3♥. I cannot see how 4♦ after 3♠ or 3N is forcing. Maybe I am wrong about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Hi, 5D. The alternative is 4D - which should be forcing, but the question is,what this is supposed to extract from p. The alternative to 3H is 5C - as long as you are sure, that this will be interpreted as a splinter. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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