VM1973 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Holding♠ very few♥ QTxxx♦ QJTx♣ AKxx Partner deals and opens 1NT, RHO bids 2♠ and I bid 3♥LHO passes, partner bids 4♥, and RHO bids 4♠ What's the right call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 colors and type of game may be relevant here!! Certainly playing IMPS how you handle this, NV vs V, is different than V vs NV altho who your opps are plays into it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I would pass and let partner figure all that out. Assuming we are playing lebensohl, he knows I have a good hand. Also, some play double of 2♠ as takeout in this sequence, which would be useful on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Ok, I was playing with someone I'd never played with before and there was no pregame discussion - only what showed on his BBO profile, which was the normal 5cm, 15-17NT, transfers, 3014, weak 2s, 2♣ strong. So there was no Lebensohl agreement. Secondly, everyone was red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Ok, I was playing with someone I'd never played with before and there was no pregame discussion - only what showed on his BBO profile, which was the normal 5cm, 15-17NT, transfers, 3014, weak 2s, 2♣ strong. So there was no Lebensohl agreement. Secondly, everyone was red.Bridge with random partners and ops can be trickier. But under this condition ... If this is IMPs, then I suspect the only really bad result would be defending 4♠ undoubled. To avoid that, I guess I double. I can live with whatever partner does next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Holding ♠ very few ♥ QTxxx ♦ QJTx ♣ AKxxPartner deals and opens 1NT, RHO bids 2♠ and I bid 3♥. LHO passes, partner bids 4♥, and RHO bids 4♠ What's the right call? IMO:On the previous round, perhaps it might have beeen better to have cue-bid 3♠ rather than bid 3♥.Now, at equal vulnerability, IMO 6♥ = 10, 5♥ = 8, X = 5, P = 1. Pass would be OK, if you were sure that partner would treat it as forcing -- but you cannot be certain with a stranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Good problem I think. I would bid 5♣ without agreements about what pass/pull shows. Agree 100% with 3♥ on the last round. Too much offense to double and no reason to bury the 5-3 heart fit with 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 On reflection, I prefer 4N to 6♥ and 5♣ to 5♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 On reflection, I prefer 4N to 6♥ and 5♣ to 5♥Well, I counted my losers and figured that 6♥ had a good shot so I bid 6 and got doubled to find partner with: ♠AKxx♥Axx♦Ax♣Jxxx Hearts were 5-0 behind me. Bad luck? Bad system? My fault? My partner's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nige1 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 On reflection, I prefer 4N to 6♥ and 5♣ to 5♥ Well, I counted my losers and figured that 6♥ had a good shot so I bid 6 and got doubled to find partner with: ♠ AKxx ♥ Axx ♦ Ax ♣ Jxxx Hearts were 5-0 behind me. Bad luck? Bad system? My fault? My partner's fault? I would bid 6♥ but I suppose, with hindsight, it is bullish. Bad breaks are likely. We hoped that partner had less wasted in ♠ but his actual holding is not completely unexpected. IMO the verdict on our actions is more bad-judgement than bad-luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Well, I counted my losers and figured that 6♥ had a good shot so I bid 6 and got doubled to find partner with: ♠AKxx♥Axx♦Ax♣Jxxx Hearts were 5-0 behind me. Bad luck? Bad system? My fault? My partner's fault? I'd chalk this one up to bad luck: When I was trying to work out the hand, one of my basic assumptions was that I had a Spade void and partner shouldn't have much wasted in Spades. RHO started with a 2♠ bid and then rebid 4♠.Yes, we've shown a heart fit, but he still very much needs to worry that we're going to double him at the four level.His four Spade bid suggests a pretty solid suit. I don't think partner's 4♥ bid was unreasonable.Arguably, 3NT might have been a better bid (double stop in Spades, scores better at MP). However, with three aces, Heart support, and a ruffing value in Diamonds, 4♥ seems fine I also don't think 6♥ was that bad. (However, I am prone to blast to slams so take anythign I say with a grain of salt) From my perspective, the main take away is that you'll get random results playing against random people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 2S followed by 4S just shows RHO is an inexperienced player imo. I would be hesitant to draw any other conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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