tkass Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 you are red, they are white we play mp you are the dealer sp Aq8xhe 10 7 xxxxdi axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Well, I would pass. You have 10 hcp, which is less than the normal total to open. In compensation, you have some distribution. This hand seems to be pretty borderline between 1♥ and pass, and certainly I could see people going either way. The problem is that if you open 1♥, you don't have a good rebid to partner's 1NT. You are much to weak to rebid 2♠ (which is a reverse), so you will probably be stuck bidding this horrible heart suit for a second time. That's unlikely to be a success. If you had the same high card strength with better hearts (i.e. AQxx AT87xx xxx -), or if your cards were rearranged such that you can bid a second suit without distorting the hand (Axx Txxxxx AQ8x -) then opening looks good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 It fits the Rule of 20, and the Rule of 22, but it's still a bit of a stretch for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I would open. I have nice shape, both majors, and great controls. (Strangest format for a hand yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I would be extremely surprised if it was not "expert consensus" to open 1H, though it is difficult to prove what is or isn't expert consensus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 The problem is that if you open 1♥, you don't have a good rebid to partner's 1NT. You are much to weak to rebid 2♠ (which is a reverse), so you will probably be stuck bidding this horrible heart suit for a second time. That's unlikely to be a success. I vote for the 2♦ rebid. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 1h then 2h over 1nt no problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 1♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I would open 1♥. It is somewhat close for me but I would be surprised if there is an "expert consensus" for passing because I think my standards for opening are a bit higher than most other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I am surprised that a 1H opening on this hand is not unanimous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'd open 1♥ and rebid 2♦ over 1 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I open 1H and expect partner to bid 1S (4+ spades!) or raise hearts (3+ hearts!), or make a game forcing bid (lho didn't bid and we have 10 points) in which case I can bid 2S and not have to misdescribe my shape, or for the opponents to bid and I won't have to distort my shape. You guys are so negative! If I knew it was going to go 1H p 1N p I might consider not opening I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I open 1H and expect partner to bid 1S (4+ spades!) or raise hearts (3+ hearts!), or make a game forcing bid (lho didn't bid and we have 10 points) in which case I can bid 2S and not have to misdescribe my shape, or for the opponents to bid and I won't have to distort my shape. You guys are so negative! If I knew it was going to go 1H p 1N p I might consider not opening I guess. I think i shd have made it clear that my 2♦ rebid will be only over 1 NT response. (fixed it) I play 1♥--2x--2♠ does not promise extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 clear zar-rt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 ♥ 1♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 you are red, they are white we play mp you are the dealer sp Aq8xhe 10 7 xxxxdi axx well, I sure prefer a 1♥ opening to pass.If P doesn't bid S, you always have more or less OK 2♥ rebid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I believe there is no such thing as an expert consensus. But what do I know? I am no expert... BTW I open 1♥ and I will rebid 2♥ over partners 1nt or 2♣. Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I open 1♥ without a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have no real problem with a 1♥ opening call but I would prefer to back in to this auction so I am inclined to pass initially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 The only negative on this hand is the poor ♥ suit quality. But it's no reason to pass an opening hand imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Try another partner then. It is ok to either open or pass this hand. It is just ignorant to say something like it would be passed in expert consensus. you are red, they are white we play mp you are the dealer sp Aq8xhe 10 7 xxxxdi axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'd open 1♥. I'd also rebid 2♦ after 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 UGH. I've indeed heard a lot of experts say how important it is to "get in the first shot".... but in a borderline case like this, I prefer to have a high-card point in my opened suit. I pass, but I wouldn't yell in my partner's face for opening this hand himself. Everybody has to draw their line somewhere, and this is just below my own line. Of course, heaven knows that if I held this hand and passed at the table, partner would turn up with ♠Kx ♥AJxx ♦xx ♣Qxxxx, and the hand could be PASSED OUT when we were a big favorite to land the slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I think that opening 1H is quite normal nowadays. I would open 1H and I consider myself sounder than most about such things. What surprises me is the number of people who say they would rebid 2D over 1NT. To me that is one strange bid - rebidding 2H is even more normal than opening 1H in my view. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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