DarrenE Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 ♠J♥K87432♦J♣AQ853 You - Partner (no opps bidding)1♥ - 1♠2♣ - 4N5♦(1) - 5♥? (1) 1 or 4 Key Cards (for clubs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Partner is asking about ♣Q, I'd respond 5NT since it's the only posive response I can make below 6♣. If he wanted to blacky for ♥, then he should've bid 4NT immediately. If he was a decent player, he wouldn't bid 4NT that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slmplicity Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Seems like partner has declared a club fit and all the keycards, I'd just bid 7♣ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Partner never supported ♥ so I'll take it he's asking for the ♣Q. (As Free said partner should have forced or bid some other way if he wanted to play hearts). Anyway the way I bid now depends on agreement: 1. If the next available bid denies the queen and any other shows it with a specific king (with 5NT usually showing the queen with no outside king), I'd bid 6♣. 2. If returning to the trump suit denies the queen and any other shows the queen with specific kings I'd bid 5NT. It's a matter of agreement, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ask p, that he bids 4C the next time. This gves more room, removes ambiquity and so on. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArtK78 Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Seems like partner has declared a club fit and all the keycards, I'd just bid 7♣ now. If you have a firm agreement that a second ask guarantees all of the key cards, then 7♣ is clear. I have that agreement, but not everyone does. If you don't have that agreement, all you can do is answer the question. I don't know what your methods would be to show the ♥K and the trump Q, or even if you can do so. But that is what I want to do. One problem with not having a firm agreement about guaranteeing all of the key cards with the second ask is that partner may now go into a long tank and emerge with 6♣. Now you know that you should bid 7♣ but try explaining that to a committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Parntner has all keycards, if he didnt he would just bid 6. So 7♣ is pretty obvious to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why do I get the feeling that the 5♥ call took an eternity to come out of the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why do I get the feeling that the 5♥ call took an eternity to come out of the box? Depending on how you look at it, you are either almost right or completely wrong :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slmplicity Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why do I get the feeling that the 5♥ call took an eternity to come out of the box? The 5♥ and/or the 4NT to make sure we know that 1 keycard won't cut the mustard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menggq Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I dont like 4N bid after 2C,I'd like to bid 2D 4th suit GF and get more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenE Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Thanks all for your responses. What actually happened here is covered in this laws topic: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/46016-ui/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Agree that, if pard is bidding properly, the 5♥ bid is a queen ask and that 7♣ is pretty obvious now. The only bad thing that can happen is pard coming up with something like AQxx Axx Ax Kxxx, but that's unlikely. AQxx Ax Axx Kxxx is more probable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 ♠J♥K87432♦J♣AQ853 You - Partner (no opps bidding)1♥ - 1♠2♣ - 4N5♦(1) - 5♥? (1) 1 or 4 Key Cards (for clubs) 5N= CQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 ♠J♥K87432♦J♣AQ853 You - Partner (no opps bidding)1♥ - 1♠2♣ - 4N5♦(1) - 5♥? (1) 1 or 4 Key Cards (for clubs) 7c QC and lots of h tricks. I dont think pard should be leaping to 4nt without 4 key cards like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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