han Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I'm not sure how to bid this hand. Matchpoints, all vul. xAKJxxxQ109xxx 1D - 1H2D - ?? Do you agree with 1H or would you start with a gameforcing 2C? What do you do after 2D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I think I agree with 1H and would pass now. If there was no way to invite after 1D 1H 1S showing H+C then there is a much stronger case for 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 It will be very hard for partner to have 3♥ even if you only raise with 4 cards. Pass and then reopen with 3♣ is a strong option. I expected the opponents to bid spades already that's why I would always start with 1♥, so that I can hear a support double and jump to game. 3♣ will gather 3NT from partner most likelly, and our game prospects are poor whatever the strain, so as Arend I think pass now is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 As our auction denies Spades, Pass and reopen 3C.D-single puts this hand just shy of take a second bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 given the auction so far partner does not have a 4 card biddable ♠ suit, does not have 4♥, So is it significantly more probable that he has 3♠ than 3♥? If you believe so; take your last probable positive score and pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Super easy pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 You don't have a way to show this type of hand now, so I guess you have to pass. Opps have a bucketload of spades anyway and if they bid them, you might be able to show the clubs later, say 1♦ pass 1♥ pass2♦ pass pass 2♠pass pass 3♣ I'm not afraid of bidding clubs because after pard bypassed spades, we have 100% certainty of a fit somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Partner had AKQ xxx KQxxxx J, the cards lie favorably so you can make 6H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 huh.. tell pard to rebid 3♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I think he should bid 2♥ rather than 2♦ (though 1♠ is an option too). If you're going to understate your values, it's better to do it with a bid that shows a fit rather than one that doesn't, because with a marginal hand partner is more likely to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menggq Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 where is ♠?obviously opps hv ♠9 cards at least.since opps hv ♠suit FIT we should hv FIT in other suit.that's why i wd like to bid 3♣ even if 3♣ is forcing and overbid in HCP view(based on good hand partern and must be FIT in some suit),i think the contract will be 4♥ or 5♣ more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Partner had AKQ xxx KQxxxx J, the cards lie favorably so you can make 6H. Aces are overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 As a nonexpert I find these unbal range hands difficult to bid. At this point this makes me lean towards offshape 1nt openings. I fully grant this is imperfect and this hand is an extreme 1nt(14-16). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I think he should bid 2♥ rather than 2♦ (though 1♠ is an option too). If you're going to understate your values, it's better to do it with a bid that shows a fit rather than one that doesn't, because with a marginal hand partner is more likely to move. Interesting comment. I see 2H as an option but I didn't really think that 2D understated the values. I thought it was a maximum but not something unusual. I get your comment, 2H may be more likely to get partner to act, especially when he has 5 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm not sure how to bid this hand. Matchpoints, all vul. xAKJxxxQ109xxx 1D - 1H2D - ?? Do you agree with 1H or would you start with a gameforcing 2C? What do you do after 2D? pass = 1 the only reason it gets 1 is because there are a ton of worse bids that deservea zero (think 7d or 7s) and a host of others. there is a huge amount of potential still left in this hand and to pass is just short ofdereliction of duty (ie knowingly passing p blackwood request). The potential misfitdoes indeed inspire a sense of caution but that is all it does. BID 2H The heart suit is good enough to gather 3 maybe 4 tricks at the 2 level (if p passes) andeven more importantly it keeps the bidding open in case p had to slightly understate theirvalues. Our potential is so good that games from 3n all the way to a slam at 6c are still plausiblePicture xxx Q AKxxxx AKx. 2h is indeed an underbid and it is the potential misfit that keeps us from bidding moreat this time. I would be happier with seeing a 2s bid (= 6) or a 3c bid (= 4) thana pass. 2h = 9 (pass has to be right at least sometimes)2s = 6 (not bad but would leave you poorly placed if p now bids 3n)3c = 4 (just too agressive for the circumstances though not far off in value)5c = 2 (WAG that has potential but you might too easily be burying a heart fit or missing 3n).pass = 1 yes indeed sometimes this will work and it is probably a better MP call than an IMP call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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