aguahombre Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) I can just imagine the table questions to highlight this understanding... "In your experience, does your partner play any specific pattern from QJ tight"... "Have you ever discussed whether I'm a good or bad player?"... This might open up a thread on how far disclosure is required. Humor was intended by Gibson, but could the question about pattern of play (when not related to signalling agreements) be asked and expect an answer? Edited April 30, 2011 by aguahombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 This might open up a thread on how far disclosure is required. Humor was intended by Gibson, but could the question about pattern of play (when not related to signalling agreements) be asked and expect an answer?I would say no, and consequently I think it would often be ethical problematic to go ahead and ask questions like that. It is not poker. Playing mind games to induce an opponent to reveal his hand is not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 It pisses me off when I see vugraph commentators talking about whether declarer (sunk in a long tank) should play for restricted choice or not (defenders having passed throughout etc), and when he drops QJ tight they applaud him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 It pisses me off when I see vugraph commentators talking about whether declarer (sunk in a long tank) should play for restricted choice or not (defenders having passed throughout etc), and when he drops QJ tight they applaud him.Not every vugraph commentator excel at objectivity. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 It pisses me off when I see vugraph commentators talking about whether declarer (sunk in a long tank) should play for restricted choice or not (defenders having passed throughout etc), and when he drops QJ tight they applaud him.Why should it piss you off? Isn't bridge more than mathematics? I have seen many players who try to play bridge as a purely mathematical game. I have seen a few players who have the guts to go against clinical mathematics and follow their table presence or take the psychology of the game into account. These players are capable of winning with what others call "bad bridge". Of course, I don't know what happened in the particular case that you saw. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 From #17, on I would like to see another thread dealing with (Duran) poker aspects of Bridge; (MFA101) ethics of certain questions; and (Gwnn) side effects of long tanks. Here, we are going off on a tangent. I would have opened a new one, but had trouble quoting posts from other threads, naming it, and wording the kick-off. It takes someone smarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I can just imagine the table questions to highlight this understanding... "In your experience, does your partner play any specific pattern from QJ tight"... "Have you ever discussed whether I'm a good or bad player?"...I suppose it could be OK to ask and expect an answer to the first question but not to the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 From #17, on I would like to see another thread dealing with (Duran) poker aspects of Bridge; (MFA101) ethics of certain questions; and (Gwnn) side effects of long tanks. Here, we are going off on a tangent. I would have opened a new one, but had trouble quoting posts from other threads, naming it, and wording the kick-off. It takes someone smarter.I think it's fine to derail a train that has stopped. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 True, but the stuff is harder to find later when thumbing through the titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Imagine all the wisdom that gets lost if this thread will be hard to find impossible for anyone but gwnn to find through BBF's search feature! Terrible!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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