Stopping low after prec 1C

[benlessard]

Weve played this evening

 

1D = 4H+ or any shapes semi-p)

1H = 4S+ (weak or GF)

1S = no M weak or GF

1Nt = 6 clubs weak or GF

2C = 6D weak or GF

 

opener accept the 1M transfer with 3 cards and 20pts or less and its not forcing. 3 times weve stopped at 1M and 1 time we stopped at 1Nt 20 vs 3 pts and only 1 of the contract was untouchable. Being at 2M or 2NT would mean 3 or even 4 minus scores intead of all plusses.

 

Ive mostly played 1C--1D(H)--1H as F1 but im thinking that its better to play it NF Idem for 1C--1H(s)---1S.

 

My previous view was that you cant expect to buy the hand at 1M often but once both opp passes on round 1 the chance that they want to compete is greatly diminished. Any1 agree ?

[1eyedjack]

I think this looks very good but I have just one concern:

If opener is distributional might he accept the transfer only to find that despite responder's weakness you have a good fit in another suit, perhaps enough for game? At matchpoints even if not enough for game you could lose heavily.

 

In classical precision you could stop low anyway, because a simple rebid by opener following a 1D negative was a non-forcing rebid. Presumably the alternative schemes with which you are comparing this method have progressed beyond that.

[benlessard]

I think this looks very good but I have just one concern:

If opener is distributional might he accept the transfer only to find that despite responder's weakness you have a good fit in another suit, perhaps enough for game? At matchpoints even if not enough for game you could lose heavily.

 

In classical precision you could stop low anyway, because a simple rebid by opener following a 1D negative was a non-forcing rebid. Presumably the alternative schemes with which you are comparing this method have progressed beyond that.

 

Our 1M opening are 12-14 or 18-22 so if opener has 18-22 range hes having clubs or a balanced hands. Its an imps system. My POV was that it was impossible to find all M fit after 1C openings (53-44-35) in an intelligent manner. So if decided to sacrifice a hand range and i think when responder is 5-8 is a good range to sacrifice since its a frequent and ennoying range you ll probably make 1Nt anyway. The hand that are annoying are when responder is 5S INV and opener is 35(14) 15-17 and game is there because of the fit and stiff.

 

The sequence im not sure is

 

1C--1D--1H(at least 3H)---1S (any INV)----1Nt (minimum not 54 in M/not 6C) MAY not be balanced

 

here i was planning to play

 

2C = 5C

2D = 5D

2H = 6 of them

2S = 6 of them

 

but i may want to sacrifice the ability to stop in 2C.