Silly question

[Free]

Some regulations state that no bid/call above 3NT may be alerted. It's clear what is intended but it's short through the corner. When you take it to the letter you get a different story to what is intended. Pass, Double and ReDouble cannot be compared to 3NT.

 

Proof:

I can Dbl over RHO's 1♥ and anyone can bid 1♠ over my Dbl. So 1♠ must be higher than Dbl. Also, I can Dbl over RHO's 4♥, so Dbl is higher than 4♥. Dbl < 1♠ < 4♥ < Dbl, this is impossible. Therefore it's comparing apples and oranges.

 

So, should one alert forcing passes (or other meanings for pass/Dbl/RDbl) when the auction is higher than 3NT? Or should we be stubborn until the regulators make work of a decent description of their alerting rule? :D

[campboy]

In the EBU, which in general has a "no alerting above 3NT" rule, the regulations give a small number of exceptions:

 

i) conventional opening bids;

ii) lead-directing passes;

iii) lead-directing doubles which ask for the lead of a suit other than that doubled.

 

They also say "once the auction is above the level of 3NT", which seems to deal with your other worry.

[PrecisionL]

In ACBLand it is clear if you read the rules:

Delayed Alerts Beginning with and including opener’s second call, an Alertable bid above the level of 3NT bid is a delayed Alert. Passes, doubles and redoubles requiring an Alert must always be Alerted immediately. [2nd boldface and underline added by poster]

 

http://www.acbl.org/play/alert.html

 

PART IV: DOUBLES, REDOUBLES AND PASSES Except for those doubles with highly unusual or unexpected meanings, doubles do not require an Alert. [boldface added by poster]

 

http://www.acbl.org/play/alertprocedures.html

[Free]

Nice to see you all have clear regulations B-)

[PrecisionL]

Nice to see you all have clear regulations B-)

 

I wish :lol: .

 

However, at the Gatlinburg Regional in the A/B Open Pairs (750/2000 MP) we were allowed to play Kaplan Inversion and Mult-Landy - two Mid-Chart Conventions. Go figure.

[bluejak]

You were allowed to play EBU Level 3 agreements? Weren't you lucky! :)