gnasher Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sa9743hk532d9543c&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1c(Clubs%20or%20any%2011-14%20balanced)1s]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 yes. I don't think I have enough to trap pass this at the 1 level, and I do have enough values for a negative X, even if I expect a 2C call by partner in response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) duplicated post Edited April 17, 2011 by CSGibson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) Another duplicate. Stupid computer. Edited April 17, 2011 by CSGibson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I would pass, downgrade the intermediates and club void to a 4-6 hand with stopper for pass followed by 1NT over partner's double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I expect partner will reopen if this is any near game. Even 3H is by the reopen route.Why do I encourage on the opponents A, an unclaimed suit K, AND void in partner's??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 X Gets your hand of your chest in one bid. A little tough, but if you pass, any time it turns into a competitive auction, both you and your partner will be unsure about the combined number of hearts in your hand. (You: "Wonder how many hearts partner has for his double", Partner: "Partner probably only has three, since he didn't double with an ace and a king.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Definitely not. Passing is not a trap pass. It is normal to pass with extreme length in their suit and extreme shortness in partners suit. I only have a 7 count, I'm not worried about missing anything by passing to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Posting this as a poll might have been interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Dbl post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I would pass, downgrade the intermediates and club void to a 4-6 hand with stopper for pass followed by 1NT over partner's double. I'd DBL but even if i choosed to pass, i would not bid 1 NT after pd's DBL for various reasons. Such as; -We already downgraded our hand with first pass. -Pd did not reopen with 2♣ and is asking us to bid a suit and we have in fact 2 of them. -By bidding 1 NT over his DBL, we will be misleading him about our ♠ holding vs his possible stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I like pass here with a void in partner's suit. Double makes it more likely thatpartner will rebid some number of ♣s which I don't want to encourage. I acceptthat occasionally I may miss a game but more often it I think it gets our side into trouble.We need a pretty good hand opposite to make 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sa9743hk532d9543c&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1c(Clubs%20or%20any%2011-14%20balanced)1s]133|200| IMO _P = 10, _X = 7, 1N = 5 A bit weak for a double but an argument for double is that you may be able to avoid a silly 2♣ contract when opener is 1426 or 1246 [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 A bit weak for a double but an argument for double is that you may be able to avoid a silly 2♣ contract when opener is 1426 or 1246 [/hv] When opener is 1246, how exactly will doubling lead to fewer silly contracts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Odds are huge pard has a clubs 1-suiter and is aching to bid it. Not sure how pass is going to detract him more than dbl, so I dbl :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 ignore this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 IMO _P = 10, _X = 7, 1N = 5 A bit weak for a double but an argument for double is that you may be able to avoid a silly 2♣ contract when opener is 1426 or 1246 When opener is 1246, how exactly will doubling lead to fewer silly contracts? It depends on how you play negative doubles but IMO, If you double, opener is more likely to rebid diamonds than clubs with say [sP} x ♥ xx ♦ AKxx ♣ AKxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hi, yes - I dont think I want to convert a reopening X,and I dont think I really want to bid 1NT. So looking for a heart fit (or diamond fit) looks likea good alternative. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 It depends on how you play negative doubles but IMO, If you double, opener is more likely to rebid diamonds than clubs with say [sP} x ♥ xx ♦ AKxx ♣ AKxxxx For the overwhelming majority of experts the negative double says nothing about ♦s. Hencea 2♦ rebid by opener is a reverse, needing the same hand stength as is if responder had bid 1M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hi, yes - I dont think I want to convert a reopening X,and I dont think I really want to bid 1NT. So looking for a heart fit (or diamond fit) looks likea good alternative. With kind regardsMarlowe Obviously you don't want to convert or bid 1NT, but it is legal tobid ♥s having passed on the first round after a reopening X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 For the overwhelming majority of experts the negative double says nothing about ♦s. Hence a 2♦ rebid by opener is a reverse, needing the same hand strength as is if responder had bid 1M. It also seems to be expert fashion to double negatively with good support for partner's minor. Just because many do it, doesn't make it right. IMO, negative doubles should tell partner you're fixed by opponent's overcall -- there is no sensible alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJonson Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Pass. (not planning to pass a re-opening double). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 For the overwhelming majority of experts the negative double says nothing about ♦s. Hencea 2♦ rebid by opener is a reverse, needing the same hand stength as is if responder had bid 1M. Seems perfect because that hand is worth a reverse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yes indeed, I was thinking that Nige was talking about minimal openings, not hands with that amount of strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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