jjbrr Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 You know, I took this and book 1 in stride (I felt they were kind of telegraphed). I can't say what it's a spoiler for, as that would spoil it, but if you're up-to-date with books you're finebig spoiler just finished book 5. i don't share your reaction at all. assuming it's the same event you're referring to, he didn't do himself any favors for like two whole books! like literally everyone at the wall was potentially an enemy It's a while since I read the books, but I recall speculation on that point that: A faceless man did Balon in certainly a possibility. so when is 6 out? is like summer 2014 feasible? i think i heard he wont announce a deadline because he wants to get it right, but maybe you wizards can dig up more info than i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 except potentially melissandre but at this point she's just irritating. i assume it was intentional to make the religious nut a pita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Are you guys still watching this? Am I the only one who gave up after they killed the dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 yes and yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMunk Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Winter is coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el mister Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 so when is 6 out? is like summer 2014 feasible? i think i heard he wont announce a deadline because he wants to get it right, but maybe you wizards can dig up more info than iI think the 'getting it right' ship has sailed for George. Things went moderately pear-shaped with book 4 - not unusual for an author to lose their grip on things in these big series, and can be recovered from. Book 5 though, my God, what a cauldron of shite. He's tied to the mast with it now so I assume he'll produce a sixth book - I think the series is irrecoverable now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 zomgggggg so close 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I think the 'getting it right' ship has sailed for George. Things went moderately pear-shaped with book 4 - not unusual for an author to lose their grip on things in these big series, and can be recovered from. Book 5 though, my God, what a cauldron of shite. He's tied to the mast with it now so I assume he'll produce a sixth book - I think the series is irrecoverable now though. I agree that parts of book 5 were the low part of the series and wandered a bit. I'm optimistic that things can be tied up pretty well in that I think we have, finally, turned the corner where things will be more coming together than flying apart. And while I have no doubt we'll meet some new characters, I think we'll have more of our disparate main characters coming together. So I think the series can be wrapped up in another 2 to 3 books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I think the 'getting it right' ship has sailed for George. Things went moderately pear-shaped with book 4 - not unusual for an author to lose their grip on things in these big series, and can be recovered from. Book 5 though, my God, what a cauldron of shite. He's tied to the mast with it now so I assume he'll produce a sixth book - I think the series is irrecoverable now though.I read the first book and didn't like it, so went no further. I can imagine that it would work better as a TV series though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 This would never have made it past the CBS censors back in the day...or even night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 No spoilers I'm not a fan of how Tyrion interacts with Shae in this season at least and probably last season but I don't remember being so peeved about it. I know he's supposed to be overcome with emotions and what not, but they've made him too mollified and beta, as if he's suppliant to Shea, which imo is not at all in line with his character. It would never have occurred to me to describe him as whiny and pitiful, but he certainly demonstrated some of those qualities in the last episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 possible spoiler theory is this HBO's way of sort of reinforcing the Tysha dialogue from season 2? having not read the books then, those scenes were kind of forgettable, and the Tysha thing in the books is obviously a huge weight on Tyrion's shoulders. I don't think the show is doing a good job of capturing exactly which emotions are weighing Tyrion down and as a result are overplaying the Shea relationship dynamics. Not really sure what the solution is, but I don't feel the whole "No I don't think of Sansa that way!" stuff was handled very well. Meh. I'm guessing they'll remind the audience of the Tysha conversation sometime before it influences the direction of the story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 No spoilers I'm not a fan of how Tyrion interacts with Shae in this season at least and probably last season but I don't remember being so peeved about it. I know he's supposed to be overcome with emotions and what not, but they've made him too mollified and beta, as if he's suppliant to Shea, which imo is not at all in line with his character. It would never have occurred to me to describe him as whiny and pitiful, but he certainly demonstrated some of those qualities in the last episode. I think it's the only thing that makes sense given his experience with women (getting burned by his first wife the whore), combined with being a dwarf, the guy is gonna have no confidence at all with women and then comes this beautiful woman who has stuck by him and shown him love, no doubt hes gonna be WHIPPED son lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I think it's the only thing that makes sense given his experience with women (getting burned by his first wife the whore), combined with being a dwarf, the guy is gonna have no confidence at all with women and then comes this beautiful woman who has stuck by him and shown him love, no doubt hes gonna be WHIPPED son lol. He also has the added danger that she's forbidden to him, and a weakness for him (others can use her against him), and in constant danger. All of that would act to reinforce her importance to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 I think it's the only thing that makes sense given his experience with women (getting burned by his first wife the whore), combined with being a dwarf, the guy is gonna have no confidence at all with women and then comes this beautiful woman who has stuck by him and shown him love, no doubt hes gonna be WHIPPED son lol. (Don't know how to do the spoiler alert code :-s)(thanks jjbrr I did it) I think they are leading up to Shae getting jealous about Tyrion marrying Sansa. So they added that scene with Tyrion/Shae. (Also need to give Tyrion a scene in every episode maybe?) So far I dislike this season. How can someone who hasn't read the books recently or remember the book follow what's going on? They can't film the scenes the way the book does. I mean, it makes no sense. Take the scene with the crows marching after getting attacked by the others - who remembers there was an attack scene before this? Even if they do, suddenly they see a bunch of man walking and people talking about the fight. Is that interesting or explain anything? They can't cut out so much and expect viewer to fill in the gaps, is my point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Rain, [&spoiler]your message but remove the & in the first bracket Yes, I agree it is a problem. Like I said I completely forgot about Tysha and didn't realize it's a big deal, but it's huge in the books. The attack of the Others at the Fist was also a big deal in the book and we were provided no details in the show, so there's a huge gap in how much the audience knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I don't really know what has been happening but seems that people finally realiced what I anticipated 2 years ago... the series suck. TOLD YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I don't really know what has been happening but seems that people finally realiced what I anticipated 2 years ago... the series suck. TOLD YOU! Not the reaction that I've been seeing/hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Not the reaction that I've been seeing/hearing A little extraction of the ones I've seen... Hannah Goddard @hannah_echo29mAll caught up on Game of Thrones and I'm traumatised to the point of considering a boycott of all further episodes. Someone hug me please? Retweeted by TheRedWeddingExpandFrank White @bigggfrank28mYooooo!!!! @HBO why y'all keep killing off the best characters in #gameofthrones cut the crap! Retweeted by TheRedWeddingExpandLauren Gonzalez @LaurenDFatima5hWHY DOES GAME OF THRONES KILL EVERYBODY I LOVE I WANT TO ***** SCREAM Retweeted by TheRedWeddingExpandKendra Manning @kendrasaurusrex5hWhat. The. *****. Game. Of. Thrones. I am crying because I am so angry and I cannot scream loud enough. DIFNRJDKWNDIDNEJDJDICNEMHIYSLAPQOTMFO Retweeted by TheRedWeddingExpandDarya R @acute_delirium3hИ стандартное: GAME OF THRONES IS THE WORST SHOW EVAR. I QUIT I QUIT I QUIT. ***** YOU HBO. ***** YOU LIFE. YOU SUCK Retweeted by TheRedWeddingExpandAmyyy @AmyPotts_1hGame of Thrones makes me want to curl up in a hole and die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwar0123 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 A little extraction of the ones I've seen... As someone who got HBO a month ago and caught up on all of season 2 and 3 I found last nights episode very shocking, however I don't think the show sucks. Spoilers only if you haven't seen the last episode I really like how shocking the massacre was, 3 major characters with fully developed personalities and plans for the future just killed suddenly and with no real foreshadowing. Very much like real life, especially during war. In what seemed a 2 sided power struggle, one side just entirely imploded, going to radically shift the story arcs. The only real dick move was killing off most of what remains of Arya's family moments before she was to finally be reunited. That kind of timing only happens in the movies. Is there anyway to watch Season 1 without buying/stealing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 A little extraction of the ones I've seen... I see this as a sign that the writers, actors, and producers did a great job getting folks to care about the characters... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 lol its so funny, I have never seen even a minute of the tv series after I hated the first books so much, but looking at people's Red Wedding's reactions I might make an exception and just watch that single chapter. I can understand that some kind of special people like the change of the good guys all dying around, I mean its like watching real life politics, the few honest politicians are get rid of quickly while the worse snakes climb up. But if you want to make it real... why do you put dragons on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwar0123 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 lol its so funny, I have never seen even a minute of the tv series after I hated the first books so much, but looking at people's Red Wedding's reactions I might make an exception and just watch that single chapter. I can understand that some kind of special people like the change of the good guys all dying around, I mean its like watching real life politics, the few honest politicians are get rid of quickly while the worse snakes climb up. But if you want to make it real... why do you put dragons on it?There is a draw to watching real people in unreal situations, less so for watching unreal people in unreal situations. Sad that you can't enjoy the distinction, you are missing out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 off topic: I don't fully understand the meaning of draw on the above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 And to answer Richard and dwar... I don't think it is that hard to like GoT, but the problem is, it deceives you!, it starts as a great Epic book, but it has nothing to do with Epic, its the opposite, and by the time you realize it is not about that it is too late and you are pissed off completely. This is a bit personal, but I also though it was so totally artificial the way the author killed Eddard, he wasted a lot of time to make you think Eddard was smart, and then he makes child mistake which not only costs his life but is partially responsible of every kill thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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