fuburules3 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=sqthq83dj85cakq65]133|100[/hv] Everyone red at IMPS. S deals and opens either 1D/1H/1S (opps playing 2/1). Do you bid with this hand? Does your answer change at different vulnerabilities or if it is matchpoints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Over 1d/1h/1sp i would bid 3 cl,to aapply pressure to opps my partner will be relaxed.a waste of time and space to bid 2cl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Perhaps I am a chicken but I think I pass. Quite possibly our best chance for a plus is defending. I will listen to those who say I am nuts, but pass is my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I'd pass all Even if i considered bidding, 1NT looks better than 2♣ to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=sqthq83dj85cakq65]133|100[/hv] Everyone red at IMPS. S deals and opens either 1D/1H/1S (opps playing 2/1). Do you bid with this hand? Does your answer change at different vulnerabilities or if it is matchpoints? I will bid. Yes, it's dangerous, but I'll rather lose from non-bidding. Maybe I'll have hesitation only if vulnerability are red vs green. The suit is too good to be passed along with these side values. Vs 1H opening and if we are in green I can bid 1nt as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=sqthq83dj85cakq65]133|100[/hv] Everyone red at IMPS. S deals and opens either 1D/1H/1S (opps playing 2/1). Do you bid with this hand? Does your answer change at different vulnerabilities or if it is matchpoints? I will bid. Yes, it's dangerous, but I'll rather lose from non-bidding. Maybe I'll have hesitation only if vulnerability are red vs green. The suit is too good to be passed along with these side values. Vs 1H opening and if we are in green I can bid 1nt as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I'd bid 2♣ over 1♦/1♥/1♠ The leading directing value is enormousForcing LHO to come in at the two level is incredibly valuableMy trumps are solid enough that I am not worried about declaring a doubled contract at the two levelMy defense is solid enough that I can pass if partner whacks the opponentsHow does 2♣ not describe my hand? I suppose that a case can be made to double a 1♠ opening bid...This might make it harder for the opponents to find a 4-4 heart fit than 2♣.However, I prefer the overcall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2♣ over all of them, and especially over 1♦. When I close my eyes and reopen them I still have AKQxx and scattered outside values. Otherwise see what hrothgar wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=sqthq83dj85cakq65]133|100[/hv] Everyone red at IMPS. S deals and opens either 1D/1H/1S (opps playing 2/1). Do you bid with this hand? Does your answer change at different vulnerabilities or if it is matchpoints? 2♣ ALWAYS.You have to tell partner you have opening values with a decent 5card ♣..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2♣ over all of them, and especially over 1♦. Yep, 2♣ with this hand over any 1-bid except clubs. 2♣/1♦ even with less. When responder (LHO) has only one major, things often work out badly for them after a 2♣ overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I would double 1S, and pass the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Bid 2C, although the shape is bad for 2 level overcall(5-3-3-2) the suit quality can compensate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 So whats the Damage if one bids 3 clubs-who is in trouble.we need openers hand the 1 d bid-assume its a min 4 card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 So whats the Damage if one bids 3 clubs-who is in trouble.we need openers hand the 1 d bid-assume its a min 4 card suit.What's the harm? How do play 3♣ here? If it's weak, you may miss a game--how can you be sure that it's their hand when many 2/1 players will open a flat 11 or a shapely 9? (Not saying that's good strategy, but it happens.) If it's intermediate, maybe the solid 5 carder will make up for the sixth trump, but the shape is poor. In either case, why are you worrying about shutting them out? 2♣ over anything but 1♣. I'm interested in JLOGIC's reasons for pass. He is a much better player than me and his idea sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I don't know about Justin's logic (and he is no doubt a better player than me - he would be happy to tell you if I didn't) but I try and avoid bidding 2minor overcalls with weak no trump hands. Especially vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 What's the matter with you guys? Are you afraid of what??? 2♣ in all cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 I would never bid 2♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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