kayin801 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sk96hak752dt8cq42&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1d1hp1s(Forcing)p]200|300[/hv] IMPs (Edited to add 2nd poll question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2♠, but judging by the title you prefer something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2S of course, I don't understand this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 If this is an ace and a bit more than you habitually overcall on then 2♦, but for most of us 2♠ is completely routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2S of course, I don't understand this problem.I'm guessing North tanked, looked uncomfortable, pulled the pass card out three times, then bid 1♠ .... and South passed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I dunno, I have a compulsive aversion to directly raising possible 4 card suits with 3 card support and a balanced(ish) hand. I guess the fact that there's no great alternative makes it necessary here though? On a side note, make a small spade a small diamond and what do you bid? I've edited the poll to ask this question too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 On a side note, make a small spade a small diamond and what do you bid?Then I would go for 1N. Some may object on the grounds of inadequate Diamond guard, but I think that nowadays that is not a requirement.(1) Responder had an opportunity to raise diamonds, which he has not taken(2) Opener had an opportunity to repeat his diamonds, which he has not taken(3) We are only at the 1 level. Let them cash their diamonds on which we discard losers and we may well have the remaining 7. I speculate that 1N is included in the poll on the same grounds, coupled with the possibility that 1S advance may be on a 4 card suit. I don't think that would pursuade me to bid 1N on the OP poll, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I dunno, I have a compulsive aversion to directly raising possible 4 card suits with 3 card support and a balanced(ish) hand. I guess the fact that there's no great alternative makes it necessary here though? If you are playing negative doubles, 1♠ in this sequence usually promises 5+, and X promises exactly 4. If this is the case, you should not have your aversion, as partner has 5+ spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 If you are playing negative doubles, 1♠ in this sequence usually promises 5+, and X promises exactly 4. If this is the case, you should not have your aversion, as partner has 5+ spades.A reread of the auction might be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2♠ - I've switched to NF in these auctions (and use a jump shift for 13-15 hands), which makes things easier. If I have to raise on Kxx AJTxx xx xxx, as well as the actual hand, things get awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I dunno, I have a compulsive aversion to directly raising possible 4 card suits with 3 card support and a balanced(ish) hand. I guess the fact that there's no great alternative makes it necessary here though? On a side note, make a small spade a small diamond and what do you bid? I've edited the poll to ask this question too. Don't bid 1S with 4 then. 1S is almost always 5 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2♠ - I've switched to NF in these auctions (and use a jump shift for 13-15 hands), which makes things easier. If I have to raise on Kxx AJTxx xx xxx, as well as the actual hand, things get awkward. But wouldn't you *want* to raise on Kxx AJTxx xx xxx? If you pass, RHO will probably bid something, then you'll bid 2♠ anyway, and they may compete to three of a minor. If you bid 2♠ immediately you will probably buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Wouldn't 2♦ show, or include, a good raise? If so, that's probably the right call, so that we can distinguish between an opening hand like this and the tat that we might have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJonson Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Bid 2S on both, Kxx is good, Kx has its advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sk96hak752dt8cq42&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1d1hp1s(Forcing)p]200|300|IMO 2♠ = 10, 2♦ = 9, 2♣ = 6, 1N = 2 (Even if 2♠ is a 4-3 fit, it should play well) With a spade transformed to a diamond:2♣ = 10, 2♦ = 7, 2♥ = 6, 1N = 4, 2♠ = 2[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 2♠ - I've switched to NF in these auctions (and use a jump shift for 13-15 hands), which makes things easier. I am guessing you don't do this with four spades or do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Don't bid 1S with 4 then. 1S is almost always 5 here. Someone has to bid them otherwise you miss your four-four fit. What exactly does almost always mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I bid 2♠ with the first hand. Can't imagine why I would choose any other call. Changing a small spade to a small diamond, I bid 1NT. Notwithstanding nige1's preference for 2♣, I think that 1NT is automatic. After all, how else can you play in 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Someone has to bid them otherwise you miss your four-four fit. What exactly does almost always mean? God not another thread on this again! Almost means if I was ever dealt AKQx xx xx xxxxx I'm sure I would bid 1S and treat them as 5. I did not want to say "1S is always 5" since I'm sure you would say "ALWAYS?!?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I dunno, I have a compulsive aversion to directly raising possible 4 card suits with 3 card support I am the same but this hand calls for 2♠. I also think 1♠ should be NF but I would raise anyway playing that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 God not another thread on this again! Almost means if I was ever dealt AKQx xx xx xxxxx I'm sure I would bid 1S and treat them as 5. I did not want to say "1S is always 5" since I'm sure you would say "ALWAYS?!?!" I was interested in where your boundary was not trying to be picky about your language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Wouldn't 2♦ show, or include, a good raise? If so, that's probably the right call, so that we can distinguish between an opening hand like this and the tat that we might have had.My thoughts..I voted 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Gee, I would not consider anything other than 2S. When lacking the 3rd S this becomes awkward. Balanced I am, but if NT is the place to be partner will need to bid it. I would try 2C maybe even worse than 1NT, but I like NT here to contain D feature. The 3 little D make the hand far less appealing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Nice advertisement for playing 1S NF IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 2♠ is really obvious, for me 1♠ is worth a 5 card suit (so exceptionally a good 4 card is allowed). With a ♠ less I think I'd rebid 2♣. I don't like to bid 1NT without a (semi)stopper, so 2♣ is pretty much all that's left. I don't understand why anyone would like to play 1♠ as NF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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