Hanoi5 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 All red, partner passes and you hold: ♠Qx♥AK2♦AJ♣AK8762 You decide to open 1♣ in order to have more chances to find the club slam (agree?): 1♣-1♠ Now, do you bid 2♦, 2♥ or what? What's the most logical choice if you want to keep the club slam in view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Open 2C and either rebid 2NT or 3C so you don't need to play catch up with this strong of a hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 2h the good news is playing reverse flannery pard will not have 5s and 4h. option two as andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Seems like 2C...<blah>...3♣ is a better way to get this hand across? Since the intent is to jump to 2♥ over pard's 1 level response anyway, why risk pard passing out 1C on JTXX XXX XXX QXX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Seems like 2C...<blah>...3♣ is a better way to get this hand across? Since the intent is to jump to 2♥ over pard's 1 level response anyway, why risk pard passing out 1C on JTXX XXX XXX QXX? not sure i get to game after 2c(nongame force) I wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I like 2♦ here as artificial, strong, 0-2♠. Perfect B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I like 2♦ here as artificial, strong, 0-2♠. Perfect B-)What are your follow-ups to the 2D! Reverse = "may be artificial" ? I'ved toyed with the idea myself, including having a possible 3 card Sp support option .It is the ONLY auction that I would have a false reverse: the 1C open and 1S response, since I can use the GG ( Gnasher's Gadget ) for the 1H Response: 1C - 1H, 2S! = may be artificial . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 the good news is playing reverse drury pard will not have 5s and 4h.What does reverse drury have to do with this hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I think he meant reverse flannery, but because flannery is a banned word on these forums, he had to disguise it as drury :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 All red, partner passes and you hold: ♠Qx♥AK2♦AJ♣AK8762 You decide to open 1♣ in order to have more chances to find the club slam (agree?): 1♣-1♠ Now, do you bid 2♦, 2♥ or what? What's the most logical choice if you want to keep the club slam in view. If u decide to open this or this type of hands 1♣, i have a suggestion. 1♣---1♠3♥ shows a giant with 6 or more ♣ and no 4 card side suit. You can always make splinter with 4♥, but if u are really fanatic about mini splinters (which i believe should not be used as a game trial for various reasons) u can still use 3♦ being splinter in either red suit and if responder is interested he can ask by relay which red. I personally like to play both 3♦ and 3♥ as ♣ giants, one of them showing 2 or 3 cards in pd's suit snd weakness in unbid suit, while 3 NT by opener shows weakness in pd's suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Well, the american way to bid hands like this seems to be to open 1♣ and 3NT rebid later. In Europe we normally use a strong two or a variant thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Well, the american way to bid hands like this seems to be to open 1♣ and 3NT rebid later.This was common 25 years ago. Is it still? I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Well, the american way to bid hands like this seems to be to open 1♣ and 3NT rebid later.I am really curious where you get these ideas about American bidding from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 huh.. like 99% of the forum posts on hands like these? every time a 6322 shape on the 18-20 region appears it's either 1x-1y-3z on a 3 card suit or 1x-1y-3NT. Seems like a pattern to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 huh.. like 99% of the forum posts on hands like these? every time a 6322 shape on the 18-20 region appears it's either 1x-1y-3z on a 3 card suit or 1x-1y-3NT. Seems like a pattern to me... This is news to me too. I guess I was too busy chugging beer and eating fried chicken to notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 some philosopher once said "know thyself" :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 All red, partner passes and you hold: ♠Qx♥AK2♦AJ♣AK8762 You decide to open 1♣ in order to have more chances to find the club slam (agree?): 1♣-1♠ Now, do you bid 2♦, 2♥ or what? What's the most logical choice if you want to keep the club slam in view. I would not open 1♣ here.You risk a pass.... Your first worry is not to miss a ♣slam, but to reach a possible game contract.That is why 2♣ is a better opener: if not 3NT, a ♣ game or ♥game are not far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I think if you play a natural system that you have to treat this hand as balanced and give up on showing clubs. I would open 2C and rebid 2N and this gives up on clubs, but I play 2C and then 3C is GF since space is so tight. I think the hand and the clubs are not good enough for this. This hand is better handled by a relay system. If you choose not to play a relay system, then I think you need to pay off to hands like this that are difficult for natural methods. The alternative would be to invent unnatural continuations for every difficult situation and these would only approximate the power of a relay system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Yeah you have a rebid problem over literally every bid partner can make if you open 1C. Just open 2C and rebid 2N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 3NT. Usually implies a 1-suiter and a single in partners suit,and makes sure, that you play at least game. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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