benlessard Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=saj973hkq8daqtcq2&n=s6h76532dk8753ck6&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1cppd1s]266|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 North should definitely bid 2♥ with 6 HCP and 5 hearts, South cues 3♣, North bids 4♥ not a great final place but reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OleBerg Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 North bids 2♥, South 3♥, North 4♥ wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'm surprised everyone is bidding only 2♥ with the North hand. That's the only conceivable way to miss game, because any stronger action will surely yield a game bid from South. Please don't tell me North passes. I mean, I'd rather be forced to blast 4♥ with North's hand than to bid only 2♥, and passing would be hopeless. 3♥ probably works fine. I mean, if some joker told me they bid 3♠ by North as a splinter, implying a red two-suiter, my comment would be, "Wow, that's a big bid," not "are you insane?!?!?" Of course, I have a twinge of insanity. BTW, I know that the double can be weak, but geez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'm surprised everyone is bidding only 2♥ with the North hand. That's the only conceivable way to miss game, because any stronger action will surely yield a game bid from South. Please don't tell me North passes. I mean, I'd rather be forced to blast 4♥ with North's hand than to bid only 2♥, and passing would be hopeless. 3♥ probably works fine. I mean, if some joker told me they bid 3♠ by North as a splinter, implying a red two-suiter, my comment would be, "Wow, that's a big bid," not "are you insane?!?!?" Of course, I have a twinge of insanity. BTW, I know that the double can be weak, but geez! Ok, I yield; I change my call to a confident 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 North should definitely bid 2♥ with 6 HCP and 5 hearts, South cues 3♣, North bids 4♥ not a great final place but reasonable.I would really count those two Ks as Aces there...ergo, 3♥ might not be a stretch. However, the OP hasn't specified the scoring and vulnerability and there's less incentive to bid 3♥ at MPs... Edit: I missaw the auction. A freebid of 2H is indeed enough to show this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I would really count those two Ks as Aces there...ergo, 3♥ might not be a stretch. However, the OP hasn't specified the scoring and vulnerability and there's less incentive to bid 3♥ at MPs... I think no one is vulnerable that is indicated in the bidding by the white bar above all seats. Vulnerable players have red bars. Its a pity that the forum software no longer asks for the method of scoring when entering a hand. Those of us who have been here a long time often omit that information, probably out of habit. 2♥ for me. For me this shows around 5-8 hcp with four or five hearts. Here I am maximum for this bid. South will not pass and game will be reached in comfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I have an easier auction: balance 2NT, which typically is like 17-19 or so. Then it's really a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I have an easier auction: balance 2NT, which typically is like 17-19 or so. Then it's really a no-brainer.Except that 2NT in the balancing position is 19+ - 21, and you don't have a ♣ stopper. Double, and when partner bids 2♥ like (s)he should, raise to 3. Then partner with a maximum goes to 4, and everybody's happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 and when partner bids 2♥ like (s)he should, raise to 3. Then partner with a maximum goes to 4, and everybody's happy.Except that 3♥ shows four hearts, and you only have three. Normal would be a cuebid to show a strong hand without four hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Except that 3♥ shows four hearts, and you only have three. Normal would be a cuebid to show a strong hand without four hearts.And you probably shouldn't DBL here with a dubious Q♣ as part of your 18 HCP, but it looks like he did. I don't feel that the North hand is strong enough to bid 2♠, and I do expect South to support with a Max, even with only 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Except that 2NT in the balancing position is 19+ - 21, and you don't have a ♣ stopper. Maybe 2NT is 19-21 where you live. Here we go a bit lower, otherwise we'd never use the bid LOL. Oh, and.. club stopper? I see you don't know me well :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Why did north pass over 1C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Why did north pass over 1C? lol hanppppppp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I have problems to find the heart fit after 2♥-3♣ I always do, on this case north is worth a jump to 4♥ but if we ransfer one of his kings to south then I would have problems to find the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 lol hanppppppp lol ?!? Seems like a perfectly reasonable albeit on the low end 2NT call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 lol ?!? Seems like a perfectly reasonable albeit on the low end 2NT call. Yep. But, here on these fora they have explained to me how the bid should have the values for the level forced. Something I never knew before, and haven't adopted after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I think that 2NT is insane, I didn't consider it at all. But we are non-vul with 5-5 shape and only 3 HCP outside of our long suits. It's gotta be right to bid 1H, no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 lol ?!? Seems like a perfectly reasonable albeit on the low end 2NT call. !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I think that 2NT is insane, I didn't consider it at all. But we are non-vul with 5-5 shape and only 3 HCP outside of our long suits. It's gotta be right to bid 1H, no? We also have only 3HCP inside our long suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Yep. But, here on these fora they have explained to me how the bid should have the values for the level forced. Something I never knew before, and haven't adopted after. I guess you haven't as far as I'm concerned it is a preemptive call with a higher risk/reward variance. It is best used, as are most preemptive calls, when you are NV vs V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 We also have only 3HCP inside our long suits. If you look at it that way you'll always find reasons not to bid Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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