bid with void in partner's suit with game values

[guelphdad]

As south and opener I held

♥KQxxx

♣AJxx

♦Axxx

 

partner had:

♠AKQxxx

♥xx

♣KQx

♦xx

 

Bid uninterrupted was

1♥-1♠-2♣-2♠ passed out.

 

I am getting back into bridge again as beginner/intermediate player.

I didn't know what my second bid there, chose clubs to bid the two four suiters up the line.

Kib/Advanced told my partner they should have responded 3♠ (instead of 2, to show better spade values) and then I could have either went with 3NT which partner could have passed or 4♠ knowing their spade strength.

 

What advice for a bid situation like this? I saw a similar one today that got passed out at 3♠ but there the person missing club stopper.

 

That got me thinking of how to respond when partner is bidding where you are void and how high to go.

 

All responses welcome.

Dave

[Trumpace]

Hi.

Welcome to the forums!

 

Assuming you are playing some form of standard american (2/1, sayc etc), your partner has no business bidding just 2S, which is non forcing. I think pass is fine, once you hear a 2S bid.

 

In some versions of standard american even 3S by partner is non forcing, and I don't think partner should bid that.

 

If you play fourth suit as game forcing, partner could have bid that. If you play fourth suit as invitational+, then 3S would be game forcing, I believe and that would show the hand partner held.

 

As to the question of your second bid, I guess some folks might bid 2D instead of 2C, intending to rebid 3C if given a chance.

[1eyedjack]

Hi

I would rebid 2C, mainly because it preserves a lot of space if partner is considering having to bid 4th suit.

[ahydra]

Your bidding was fine - 2S was a massive underbid though, normally showing something like 6-9 points. 3S is generally forcing to game and shows at least 6 spades, so that's ideal for this hand - you would reply 3NT, which would probably make (diamonds need to be 4-3 or not led).

 

ahydra

[Quantumcat]

Some people play 3♠ as forcing to game, and some people play it as invitational (needing to bid 4th suit to force to game). That is something to discuss with your partner.

 

Whichever you agree on though, repeating your suit at the minimum level, whatever the circumstances, is almost always a weak, terminal bid.

 

2♣ is better than 2♦ because partner may wish to bid 4th suit forcing to force.

[Quantumcat]

oops posted twice accidentally, can't figure out how to delete a post :-)

[Fluffy]

great bidding, passing 2♠ shows that you have discipline and judgement. Your partner on the other hand fails to understand the difference between forcing and non forcing bids. Wich is a very big problem.

 

Don't mind much about bidding 2♦ or 2♣ it very seldom makes a difference and both are correct, compared with the gross mistake of bidding 2♠ it is completelly irrelevat.

[han]

great bidding, passing 2♠ shows that you have discipline and judgement. Your partner on the other hand fails to understand the difference between forcing and non forcing bids. Wich is a very big problem.

 

Don't mind much about bidding 2♦ or 2♣ it very seldom makes a difference and both are correct, compared with the gross mistake of bidding 2♠ it is completelly irrelevat.

 

What Fluffy said.

[Cyberyeti]

Your bidding is fine, wonder if your partner habitually plays weak jump shifts, hence thought he was showing a reasonable hand.