the_clown Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 On the deal you hold: 10xxxxAKJxxxKx Partner opens 1♥ in second seat, next op bids 2NT. I double, showing interest to penalize the ops and after 3♣ pass pass its my bid again. We have no clear agreement what a pass over 3♣ means, a double would have been penalty. Do u pass, try 3nt or bid something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Vulnerability? I don't think you can pass here; your earlier double set up a forcing pass and partner could have a strong hand. I would double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 3N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 ok, I'll bite.. why 3N? Won't they just set up a bunch of clubs on opening lead and then cash them? And if partner has club help don't we expect to murder 3♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 If I go down some number in 3N and they're cold for 3C X I have gained a lot. If we are "murdering 3C X" we probably will make 3N, so I haven't lost much/have gained there too. Do I love my chances in 3N? No. But I'm certainly not doubling them with no tricks or trumps. If partner has a doubleton club, doubling them just seems like a complete disaster. And as you said we're in a force so I can't pass. I think you like your chances on defense way more than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 And as you said we're in a force so I can't pass. Can't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Can't? Haha, I actually laughed when I wrote it too, nice catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Pard is min and so am I. Besides, I can't see where our tricks are coming from. Pass and lead a heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I actually think double is a pretty good bet. Partner would bid with 7 hearts so it seems like dummy must have a bunch of major suit cards. I cannot beleive that they are in a 9 card fit with short diamonds and only bid 3c here. That doesnt seem right. Sure, they might be able to get 9 tricks, but it seems like I have a pretty good chance of restricting them to 6 tricks. Obviously vulnerability matters a lot. It they were red and you were green I would imagine that double is the winning strategy by some margin. I would want to have at least one or two decent diamond pips though. I.e. At least the 8 so that Declarer cannot set up long diamonds by force. Do you really imagine that 9 tricks is a possibility on this auction if declarer cannot establish a single diamond trick? I would even consider leading a trump away from Kx if I doubled. I mean, 3N might be making, but it hardly seems like a lock. No reason partner cannot have 4 clubs on this auction and just not be prepared to double if they aren't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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