jules101 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 [hv=d=w&v=e&b=16&a=p4sp(What%27s%20this%20then...%20etc%20etc)p]133|100[/hv] East says - at their turn to bid in a somewhat jocular tone - "What's this then...? Bid game, and try and make it...?" Is West now compromised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richlp Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 [hv=d=w&v=e&b=16&a=p4sp(What%27s%20this%20then...%20etc%20etc)p]133|100[/hv] East says - at their turn to bid in a somewhat jocular tone - "What's this then...? Bid game, and try and make it...?" Is West now compromised? Not if I'm North or South. It sounds like something I might say. I realize that duplicate bridge is a serious competition and that it's not "just a game so why is everyone so upset." OTOH, there's nothing wrong with having some fun while you play and to treat this as anything other than an attempt at humor goes a bit further than I would prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Agree. We're not told what level this is but I'd imagine it's probably best to refrain from this kind of thing in national and higher level competitions? ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules101 Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Regional qualifier for National Pairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Not if I'm North or South. It sounds like something I might say. I realize that duplicate bridge is a serious competition and that it's not "just a game so why is everyone so upset." OTOH, there's nothing wrong with having some fun while you play and to treat this as anything other than an attempt at humor goes a bit further than I would prefer.I’m reminded of my first nationals. It was the Sunday swiss where I arrived with my partner to find, miracle of miracles….the boards had been made. Well, while playing the boards I had the feeling that the opponents seemed to know a bit too much about the cards. I didn’t say anything and as expected we were blown out. And to this day I still wonder about those boards. The point is that we should have made the boards with both sides present so that there would be no question of hanky-panky. Just like this situation. East says something that sounds like a coded message- even if it is off the cuff and meant to humor. It can distract an opponent, put him off, or even put him out- affecting the outcome of a large number of boards. Personally, I want my opponents to be at their best- even in a setting of familiarity where I am ironclad positive they wouldn’t mind in the least. As such, the problem is not merely whether W is compromised- but the unknowable quantity of the opponents [possibly] not knowing they have been distracted or subsequently feel they may have been cheated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Just like this situation. East says something that sounds like a coded message- even if it is off the cuff and meant to humor. It can distract an opponent, put him off, or even put him out- affecting the outcome of a large number of boards. Personally, I want my opponents to be at their best- even in a setting of familiarity where I am ironclad positive they wouldn’t mind in the least. As such, the problem is not merely whether W is compromised- but the unknowable quantity of the opponents [possibly] not knowing they have been distracted or subsequently feel they may have been cheated.I don't think it sounds like a coded message, and I wouldn't be wondering if my opponents were cheating. However, it does sound like the sort of comment that would not be made if East had anything to think about, so that is UI that West has. I don't suppose it's likely to become relevant, but it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 It sounds like a normal casual comment, and I am amazed that anyone should take it otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJonson Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 West is certainly compromised since the remark implies comfort with defending. If you can deconstruct the remark to mean something else, I can't. Does it matter? Possible, but not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintaro Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 mmm some of us more laid back players do make comments at the table especially so when we know the opps ;) I have made rude comments to Bluejak and he to me but we would not think of fetching the Pigs in Wrong in Law maybe but we just enjoy the Game and Banter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJonson Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 mmm some of us more laid back players do make comments at the table especially so when we know the opps ;) I have made rude comments to Bluejak and he to me but we would not think of fetching the Pigs in Wrong in Law maybe but we just enjoy the Game and Banter So do we all, but not very often on this forum mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintaro Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 So do we all, but not very often on this forum mate. ROFL :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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