dburn Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sahajt8632dajcaj3&n=skt7532h94dqt2ct2&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1hp1sp4hppp]266|200[/hv]West leads ♥5 [edited after a wholly justified complaint from matmat], four, queen, ace. Neither of your opponents has six cards in any suit. Therefore, claim your contract before you make a mistake. But just in case, state your line of play. Not sure whether this is really BIL material, but it was actually dealt at the Young Chelsea this evening, and it is a cute hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Someone showed me this hand tonight after playing at YCBC, nice to know that textbook hands don't only show up in textbooks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I don't see it. Is there really a 100% line when East starts with a singleton spade and KQx of hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburn Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I don't see it. Is there really a 100% line when East starts with a singleton spade and KQx of hearts?Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Yes. Here are two hands for East: 1. x KQx Kxxxx 9xxx2. x KQx Kxxxx Qxxx For the first hand, declarer must play a club before touching trumps. For the second hand, declarer must NOT play a club before touching trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 For the first hand, declarer simply ducks the club exit, and LHO is still endplayed. If they return a spade, we duck from dummy, and ruff in hand, draw the last trump, and have to guess which minor to exit I believe. Nice to see a textbook one come up... Shame I don't read lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I might have to call the director on that ♥3 lead :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Here are two hands for East: 1. x KQx Kxxxx 9xxx2. x KQx Kxxxx Qxxx For the first hand, declarer must play a club before touching trumps. For the second hand, declarer must NOT play a club before touching trumps.I also don't see a line that handles both of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Unblock ♦A (as well as ♠A of course) immediately. Exit with trump, if they play a trump back play a diamond and overtake with the queen. Next thing: whoever wins the diamond trick will have to put dummy on lead or break the club suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Unblock ♦A (as well as ♠A of course) immediately. Exit with trump, if they play a trump back play a diamond and overtake with the queen. Next thing: whoever wins the diamond trick will have to put dummy on lead or break the club suit.Can't they cash the ♦K before playing back a trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Ace of ♥, cash the ♠A and draw trumps. Don't touch the ♦s until trumps are gone or they'll just endplay you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Unblock ♦A (as well as ♠A of course) immediately. Exit with trump, if they play a trump back play a diamond and overtake with the queen. Next thing: whoever wins the diamond trick will have to put dummy on lead or break the club suit.I think Helene got it ! Opps' only get 1h, 1d, 1c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Gordon already mentioned why that lines goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 As one of my former partners would say: Pull trumps, claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I still don't understand how it is 100% if you just play on trumps. Say you do and RHO wins the trick. He returns ♣s, which you have to duck to prevent them setting up a stack of clubs. After winning, LHO plays a spade to your ace. You draw more trumps if you like but eventually play ♦A and ♦. RHO wins this and plays another ♣ which means you are going down with LHO having KQ♣ and RHO K♦ and KQ♥. You could still make it on this layout by cashing the ♠A before exiting in trumps. Then LHO is endplayed as soon as he gets in with the first ♣. So it looks like it is 100% as long as there is no ♠ ruff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Right, that's where I got also, Jorrit. As long as spades are no worse than 4-2, it's always home I believe. If spades are 5-1, then you have to duck the eventual spade return and guess which minor to endplay someone with, although a diamond is more likely to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Perhaps David couldn't imagine a singleton trump lead. Indeed if it was a singleton trump lead the opening leader perhaps should be immediately shot? Clearly all 2-2 trump breaks have a 100% line. So do all LHO-RHO 3-1 trump breaks. It appears to me that not all LHO-RHO 1-3 trump breaks are a 100%. So I will wait for David to explain why those are 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Right, that's where I got also, Jorrit. As long as spades are no worse than 4-2, it's always home I believe. If spades are 5-1, then you have to duck the eventual spade return and guess which minor to endplay someone with, although a diamond is more likely to work. If East has x KQx Kxxxx 9xxx there is no endplay. ♥A ♠A heart to Qclub return ducked to west. spade return ducked and ruffed in hand. West comes down to all clubs, East just matches your pattern. You're hosed. If you exit a diamond East wins and pushes another club through you. If you exit a club West just continues clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Oops, I had two aces of trumps in my hand :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 We can't see a 100% line. We're obviously not good enough for the B&I forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 We can't see a 100% line. We're obviously not good enough for the B&I forum.Is that the royal "we"? I shall have a go. Cash ace of spades and exit with a heart.a) If East wins and plays a heart, play ace and another diamond.b) If East wins and plays a club, play lowc) If East wins and plays a diamond, rise, draw the trump if there is one and exit with a diamondd) If West wins he has to play a heart, and now play ace and another diamond. No doubt I am missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 No, it's not the royal "we" because I'm not royal.It's "we" in the usual sense of the word: I am posting on behalf of at at least two people, of whom I am one, who cannot see a 100% line under the original conditions given by dburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 No, it's not the royal "we" because I'm not royal.It's "we" in the usual sense of the word: I am posting on behalf of at at least two people, of whom I am one, who cannot see a 100% line under the original conditions given by dburn.So, the fact that neither opponent has six cards in the suit was added after you answered? I don't think one can tell on here what the original was. And sorry for the confusion over "we"; it could have been the authorial "we" as in "we should consider several possible scores in making an adjustment". And I think I should have used the "editorial we" to be more precise. But I am more interested in what line is actually 100% as the OP reads now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Is that the royal "we"? I shall have a go. Cash ace of spades and exit with a heart.b) If East wins and plays a club, play low No doubt I am missing something.West wins and leads spade, ruffed by East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 West wins and leads spade, ruffed by East.Yes I agree. Now, I cannot see a 100% line either. No doubt David will let us know in due course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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