deep Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 System 5°major diamond 4° [hv=pc=n&s=s6haqt752d9caq942&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=3ddp]133|200[/hv] What bid South now? please help me. Ty at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Nobody here answer me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 HUGE potential with this hand (7 might be easy lay down). I would start with 4n (regular blackwood with no agreed trump suit)if p shows 1 ace sign off in 6h. If p shows 2 aces bid 5n looking forkings gamble on 7n ONLY if p shows 3 kings (hoping they do not have ak dia)else sign off in 6h. This has a special advantage. Once you bid 5n if p has an independentside suit (spades) they can infer we have all the aces and just bid 7 on their own immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I would have thought 4♦ is the obvious first step, but there may well be a number of views as to what the best bid is on the next round after the expected 4♠ rebid by partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 problem with 4♦ is that you are stuck when p bids 4♠. 4NT is now RKC for spades. Not sure if a direct 4NT is Blackwood. If it is then I agree with gszes. If not sure how p will take 4NT (couldn't it just be natural?) then I would blast 6♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 problem with 4♦ is that you are stuck when p bids 4♠. 4NT is now RKC for spades. I'll be interested in views as to the different meanings of 5♣ & 5♥ (after a 4♠ response to 4♦). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I think an immediate 4NT should be natural, but that might be a minority opinion. 4♦-4♠;5♣ is just a correction of contract, with four hearts and four or more clubs. 4♦-4♠;5♥ is a slam try with hearts. I think this route should show a diamond control, and a direct 5♥ should deny one. A direct 5NT would clearly show clubs and an unspecified major. 4♦ followed by 6♣ would show clubs and hearts, but probably ought to be 4-6 or 5-6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I would think that 4N would be Blackwood. After a preempt and double, it isn't likely that the partnership belongs in 6N (which 4N natural invites) and many of those holdings where it might be right to invite 6N can convert the double to penalty. OTOH, it is difficult to both set trump and then RKC, so we at least need to be able to ask for aces when we think we know the right strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 One rule is NOT to bid 4NT here. You never know what pard will make of it. He can see it as - natural- 2 suiter- blackwood As to the problem, I don't see any means of bidding this intelligently, so I just shoot at 6♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I would bid 4♦ followed by 6♥ after the expected 4♠ response. Not ideal, but anything else (after 4♦) risks a misunderstanding and I am not prepared to stop below slam. Unlikely that partner will not have tolerance for ♥ after the double. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 4D. The only forcing bid you have at the moment. Most would play 4D as two place to play, but even if you are not sure,4D is at least a bid, that asks partner to tell you more about hishand. I am not sure, I will be better placed after partner responds, but at least I have another chance.If I dont hear anything useful, I will eventually bid 6H, but dependingon mood and how ugly partner did treat me in the previous boards, I mayhit back and bid 5D over a 4S response. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 well deep now you know why partnership agreement is so hugely important.the odds of any other the respondents being on the same page for this handborders on nil. I remain convinced 4n ace asking is vastly more importantthan any of the offered alternatives but most would disagree good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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