jillybean Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 IMP NV Partner opens 1NT, you hold 8642, AQ4, AQ6, A75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Hand looks familiar and I would just bid 3NT. Partner would upgrade out of 1NT with a good 17 and my rather poor 16 opposite an average 17 looks like being a marginal slam at best. Partner might also accept my invite with 16 sometimes and then it will be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 IMP NV Partner opens 1NT, you hold 8642, AQ4, AQ6, A75 Find out what brad moss would bid, and bid it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 I have a long way to go before becoming such a disciplined bidder, I wouldn't hesitate to roll out the 4N here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 4NT. our style is, that P can only pass on a minimum. So, indeed we might end up in 6NT, on 32H..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 4NT. our style is, that P can only pass on a minimum. So, indeed we might end up in 6NT, on 32H.....And you would go down, as well as probably going down on many hands with 33 HCP. You have the worst distribution as well as no points in your "long" suit. I wouldn't even look for slam if partner and I played the "Yellow Rose of Texas" convention. Assuming no 8-card fit, you'll probably need around 35 HCP for 6NT, and even if you have a 4-4 Spade fit, that looks to need roughly 34 HCP for 6NT because you are 4333. The only chance you have is if partner has a 5-card suit, and even then needs to be a maximum. I would bid 3NT, wouldn't even think twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Stayman followed by a quantitative invite, if no fit was found,the quatitative invite would be 4NT. The forcing raise for the shown major is bidding 3 of the othermajor. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'd bid 3NT, but wouldn't mind if my partner bid 4NT. It's borderline imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 3N... YUCK at 4N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 3N IMO is the best bid with the flat hand. 2♣ is also better than 4NT, 4-4 spade fit will make an extra trick very often, bypassing the 4 card major is an strategy based on giving away less info to the opponents for the lead, not for reaching best double dummy contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 A good hand for a distribution relay ask if you play it. This is a tough guess because it all comes down to how well our hands mesh. There are some 15 counts which make slam a good proposition but usually that would require partner to have a 5-card suit (or 6) in one of our aces' suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 How can I bypass this ?.... :) Hamman eggs in one basket :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 3N. I posted a similar hand last year but the 4 card suit was better. Nice to see that I am still learning things after 30 years :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think 3NT is awful. Can't partner be 5332 with his 16 count? or 4432 with his 17 count. We're not even gonna bid stayman to find out about partner's shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think 3NT is awful. Can't partner be 5332 with his 16 count? or 4432 with his 17 count. We're not even gonna bid stayman to find out about partner's shape?Right, because we'll be able to find this out using stayman... OF COURSE, why didn't I think of that. I'll bid stayman to find partner's exact shape. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think 3NT is awful. Can't partner be 5332 with his 16 count? or 4432 with his 17 count. We're not even gonna bid stayman to find out about partner's shape?Even if partner has a ♠ fit, what's the point in looking for it? Ruffing value will be in his hand, while he needs to have high trumps to keep control of the suit. So basically you'll be ruffing with high trumps, great plan.And what if ♠s split 4-1 or worse? You could go down while NT makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I had a similar 16 count, 4333 hand at the club the other day. Partner opened 1N and remembering this, I smoothly pulled out the 3N card. Top board , making 3N exactly as others got too high. At the time, my RHO snorted at my 3N bid but afterwards came up and asked why I hadn't bid 4N. Thanks VG! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 3NT, I hope pard can make it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Right, because we'll be able to find this out using stayman... OF COURSE, why didn't I think of that. I'll bid stayman to find partner's exact shape. Perfect. I use stayman with this level of HCP when I am 5332. The 9 card fit probably plays better than 3NT plus probably more comfortable slam tries in the 29-32 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.