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Assuming 2C is strong, forcing, and artificial ---and real :rolleyes:

---22+ if balanced

---9+ tricks for maj if unbalanced

---10+tricks for minor if unbalanced

 

(Humor me on those assumptions)

 

Assume (also humoring me) that 2M is natural with suit quality, 3-level bids are natural and structured strong bids; and 2D is a waiting noise staying out of opener's way.

 

Does anyone have a good use for 2NT? I don't think I like the old 8-10 scattered quacks thing, and am looking for something useful to fill a hole.

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Before I give my 3 suggestions, I like your methods over 2 and would play them myself IF I had a partner who would play them with me (controls is all the rage). Having said that, here they are:

 

1.) 8-12 HCP, bal, no 5-card suit, two honor tenaces (AQ, KJx, Q10x)

 

2.) 11+ HCP, bal, 3+ controls

 

3.) Play 2NT as a transfer to 3, and so on up the line. Not sure what to do then with 3.

 

After thinking about this, what do you use 3NT for? I don't have it defined, but am thinking that it should be something like 5-5 or better in the minors, and good suits.

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Before I give my 3 suggestions, I like your methods over 2 and would play them myself IF I had a partner who would play them with me (controls is all the rage). Having said that, here they are:

 

1.) 8-12 HCP, bal, no 5-card suit, two honor tenaces (AQ, KJx, Q10x)

 

2.) 11+ HCP, bal, 3+ controls

 

3.) Play 2NT as a transfer to 3, and so on up the line. Not sure what to do then with 3.

 

After thinking about this, what do you use 3NT for? I don't have it defined, but am thinking that it should be something like 5-5 or better in the minors, and good suits.

 

I use philip alder transfer prempts, 2nt- 3 club weak suit, 3 club- diamonds weak suit

3 sapdes id the solid seven card minor gampling nt, 3nt is an 8 card minor with one hole

4c/4d namuats, 4h, 4s premptive

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The biggest problems I've encountered after a 2 opening is when responder has a big 2-suiter. If you want to use most of your humorous approach, you might want to use 2NT for one or more 2-suiters. You have 2M natural, so perhaps - might be useful (definitely better than bidding 2/3 first and having to ignore the ).
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I prefer to play what Fred has suggested: 2 is a balanced 8-10, and 2N through 3 are positive responses.

I thought he played 2NT as a positive in or , but I don't have any idea what he uses 3M for.

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If i have to humor u in every aspect, then no i dont find any better use for 2Nt than 8-10 bal. hand.

I do have a succestion though; natural 3 level response can be quite destructive so i have used this xfer method where 2Nt is xfer to and 3is xfer to continues u can choose by u self ( accept xfer promises or denies something and so on).

3D promises some HHJxxx suit and 3H promises some AKQxxx suit.

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