Free Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 [hv=n=s764haj2dk64ca932&s=sakqjt3h9daj5ck54]133|200|[/hv] You play 6♠, and West leads ♥K. You can make this contract however the minors are distributed. How do you play?(you can assume West also has ♥Q) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 You are giving the clue in the explanation Free, althou I think you need ♠2-2 for that to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhar Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Cool problem! Here's my solution (hidden - you should really try the problem :) ): duck the King of hearts.West must shift to a trump. I play four rounds, discarding a diamond.Then, CK, C to A, HA discarding club.Ruff the club. Somebody must have a club else I have 12 tricks. If it's West, I play the last trump, bringing West down to one diamond, then play a diamond to the King, extracting his last diamond, and take the marked finesse. If it's East, I play the last trump, discarding the jack of hearts if it's not good, and either my C9 scores or I take the last three diamond tricks. I might have to do some additional thinking if hearts are 8-1, but with East having so many minor suit cards, it seems as if there must be a solution here too. Frederick, let me know if this is necessary. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 I suspect that you have it right, paulhar. However, the wording of the problem specifies that you make it *however* the minors are distributed. I fear that your line fails when East has a minor suit void and a trump (West switches to East's void at trick 2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 You are giving the clue in the explanation Free, althou I think you need ♠2-2 for that to work. For what to work? Btw, if I don't say you can asume West has ♥Q, then you'll come to the same conclusion anyway, since nobody leads his K from Kx(+)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I gonna make squeeze: First, I will play A♥, and then finesse ♣(I guess it will lose, else I made), I guess West will continue with trump, then I will open all (!) trumps, now I have to discard 3 cards, first is small ♦, second - small ♥ and on the third (the squeeze card) I'll discard J♥(if West discard Q♥ I will discard ♣ and J♥ is my 12 trick, but I guess he will not discard it :) ) now I open A♣ and K♣.1.) If East is 4th♣, then West has ♥Q♦Qx or East has ♦Qx♣10, but never mind the Queen of diamond is SECOND so I open AK♦ and the J♦ is a big card. 2.) If West is 4th♣, then he has ♥Q♣10 and ONE diamond and East has 3 diamonds, so I will open K♦ and if West give small I will finesse the third Queen of diamonds in East. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I think you're VERY close Skorchev, but not 100% :) Question/hint: how do you know who has the ♣s before you play the ♦s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 If trumps are 22 there's a simple loser-on-loser endplay. I guess that's what you should try first, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 i don't see the problem, sorry :) duck the heart... trump comes back.. draw trumps, diamond to board, toss club on ♥A, diamond to A, finish trumps... i *think* this is left: [hv=n=shjdca9&s=s3hdjcj]133|200|[/hv] on last spade, west keeps his heart.. toss dummy's... east keeps his diamond, play clubs the reason i said i don't see the problem is cause i only see one line lolol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I think there is misunderstanding, Frederick. I will try to be more clear this time. :) 1. A♥-x♥2. x♣-J♣ (it will lose)3. x♠-A♠ (I guess he will play x♠, it looks safest for the defence)4. K♠-x♠5. Q♠-x♠6. J♠-x♦7. 10♠-x♥ The 6-card endshpil: ♠ -♥ J♦ Kx♣ Axx ♠ x♥ -♦ AJx♣ Kx 8. x♠-J♥ (I guess West will not discard Q♥, so I discard the J♥, if West discard Q♥ I made)9. K♣-x♣10 x♣-A♣ The 3-card endshpil: The cards of NS:♠ -♥ -♦ Kx♣ x ♠ -♥ -♦ AJx♣ - The cards of EW:1.♠ - ------------ ♠ -♥ Q ----------- ♥ -♦ Qx ---------- ♦ xx♣ - ------------ ♣ 10 or 2.♠ - ------------- ♠ -♥ Q ------------ ♥ -♦ Q ------------ ♦ xxx♣ 10 ----------- ♣ - or 3.♠ - ------------- ♠ -♥ Q ------------ ♥ -♦ x ------------- ♦ Qxx♣ 10 ----------- ♣ - When I open the ♣A one of the defenders will discard something (they are 4-2 in ♣ and A♣ is third round ♣ which I play). If East is longer in ♣ (look variant 1.) so EW is 2-2 in ♦ and I will open K♦ and after A♦ and J♦ is a big card => I MADE. If West is longer in ♣ (look variants 2. and 3.) I will open K♦ and if West play small I will finesse the third Q♦ in East => I MADE. I hope that now I'm more clear. B) Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Ok, I indeed misunderstood that one. Your line already works when RHO has at least 2 ♣s. Only thing which is still a problem: if RHO has void or singleton ♣, all these lines will fail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 IF ♠ are 2-2 i whould make it like this i think.Ace of ♥,ruff a♥ draw 2♠play♦to king, ruff last♥, ace of ♦ and ace of ♣ and last♦ now u should read the ending easy. kenneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Ok, I indeed misunderstood that one. Your line already works when RHO has at least 2 ♣s. Only thing which is still a problem: if RHO has void or singleton ♣, all these lines will fail... Yes, Frederick, if there is singleton ♣ (except single Q♣) I gonna down. But I think this percentage is much much lower than 2-2♠. And if there is a void ♣ in RHO I still made because these is squeeze ♥-♣ on LHO. If LHO is void ♣ then I still have chances - ♥-♦ squeeze on LHO or ♦-♣ squeeze on RHO. So I think the only way to go down on 6♠ is 5th Q♣ in LHO. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I can garantee you that there is a line of 100% ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 WOOPS!!! I made a typo!!! You don't have ♣J, only K54 VERY sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 OK Frederick, I'm waiting to see what is it ... ;) (btw there never is 100% line, if the hearts are 9-0 you go down) :) Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 WOOPS!!! I made a typo!!! You don't have ♣J, only K54 VERY sorry Ok a bit differen then, ace of ♥ ruff a ♥, 2 times ♠,♣king,♣to ace ,♦king and then ♥Jack pith last♣ and west is endplayed, if he still have more ♣ ill ruff and play my ♠3(whitch i have ceept)to dummy and take finnes in ♦ kenneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 draw trumps, duck one round c, then marked single or dbl sqz. or c 33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 1. Duck heart 2. Take club shift (best defense) in hand3. Pull trumps4. Cross to club ace and discard club on heart ace5. Ruff a club and watch...6a. Clubs break: 12 tricks6b. If club guard on West, execute heart/club guard squeeze against West6c. If club guard on East, execute double squeeze heart/diam vs West and club/diam vs East Must duck heart trick 1. Otherwise East might take the later club duck and switch to a diam and it's game over. Did I get it right? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 1. Duck heart 2. Take club shift (best defense) in hand3. Pull trumps4. Cross to club ace and discard club on heart ace5. Ruff a club and watch...6a. Clubs break: 12 tricks6b. If club guard on West, execute heart/club guard squeeze against West6c. If club guard on East, execute double squeeze heart/diam vs West and club/diam vs East Must duck heart trick 1. Otherwise East might take the later club duck and switch to a diam and it's game over. Did I get it right? ;) how could west be scveesed in ♥ and ♣/♦ after u played 3 times hart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I didn't play hearts three times. Only two: 1. duck, 2. heart ace for club discard. The heart jack will remain in dummy as threat card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I didn't play hearts three times. Only two: 1. duck, 2. heart ace for club discard. The heart jack will remain in dummy as threat card. sry, my fouldt. yes this line would work i think:)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 I think you guys really need to READ the problem again. It's opposite ANY distribution in the minors, so if you don't take ♥A at trick 1 you're already wrong since RHO can get a ruff in his possible minor-void. It is some squeeze, the problem is how you manage to get the cards right. And how you would deal with an early play in ♦ if you give away a ♣, since that will probably destroy your squeeze chances if you can't get back to your ♥J. I also wonder why Ben didn't try this one yet, I thought squeezes were his favorite part of the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Well, while there may be a solution that is 100%, at table I wouldn't bother to go further than the guard squeeze ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 [hv=n=s764haj2dk64ca932&s=sakqjt3h9daj5ck54]133|200|[/hv] You play 6♠, and West leads ♥K. You can make this contract however the minors are distributed. How do you play?(you can assume West also has ♥Q) ace of ♥, ruff a♥,2 times♠(spades need to bee 2-2),king of♣,♣ to ace, jack of♥,pich last ♣, west must return♣ or u have 12 tricks,now !D to king ruff a ♣if 33- u are home or else ♠3 to dummys 7 and !D finness . are we there soon??lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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