rogerclee Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sakt62hkt8d2ck632&w=s4ha962dakt9843c4]266|200[/hv]West deals, R/R IMPs 1D P 1H 1S2H P 3C P3D P 3H P4H AP You lead the ♠A, partner following with the 9 and declarer with the 3. No carding agreements discussed except UDCA in general. Your play to trick two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 we need partner with ♦QJxx and then we need to draw trumps and remove an entry to dummy, only way to do both is with ♥K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 we need partner with ♦QJxx and then we need to draw trumps and remove an entry to dummy, only way to do both is with ♥KYou're playing declarer for something like QJxx QJxx x AJxx, giving partner xxx xx QJxx Q10xx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 With Fluffy's defence against the layout I suggested, declarer can still make it if he plays it very well. Declarer ducks ♥K. If we play another heart, he wins in hand, ruffs a diamond high, crosses to ♥A, and concedes a diamond. To prevent that, we have to switch back to spades at trick 3. Now declarer ruffs, plays ♣A, ♣ ruff, ♦A, ♦ ruff high, ♣ ruff, ♦K throwing the last club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 more like Qxxx QJxx x AQxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathyab Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 With Fluffy's defence against the layout I suggested, declarer can still make it if he plays it very well. Declarer ducks ♥K. If we play another heart, he wins in hand, ruffs a diamond high, crosses to ♥A, and concedes a diamond. To prevent that, we have to switch back to spades at trick 3. Now declarer ruffs, plays ♣A, ♣ ruff, ♦A, ♦ ruff high, ♣ ruff, ♦K throwing the last club. In your second line, dummy has no more trumps, declarer having ducked one, ruffed one ♠ and two ♣s . Declarer now has Qx Jx - x in the five card ending before throwing a ♣ on the ♦King and you have Tx T8 - K left ? Isn't he always going down now ? You can either ruff and force him and he has a ♠ loser in the end assuming partner has the Jack or just throw the ♣ King and he has a trump and a ♠ loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 In your second line, dummy has no more trumps, declarer having ducked one, ruffed one ♠ and two ♣s . Declarer now has Qx Jx - x in the five card ending before throwing a ♣ on the ♦King and you have Tx T8 - K left ? Isn't he always going down now ? You can either ruff and force him and he has a ♠ loser in the end assuming partner has the Jack or just throw the ♣ King and he has a trump and a ♠ loser. In my construction declarer's last five cards are QJ Jx - x. With Fluffy's layout you'd be right. I expect that's why Fluffy changed the black-suit honours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 In my construction declarer's last five cards are QJ Jx - x. With Fluffy's layout you'd be right. I expect that's why Fluffy changed the black-suit honours.Or maybe instead of playing well, declarer will plays *extremely* well ? We play [2]K♥ ducked *and* unblock ♥Q [3]K♠ and declarer ruffs in dummy. Now declarer may [4]cash ♦Ace, and [5]small ♦ discarding a ♣ (game over with 3-2 diamonds). Now that he knows Diamonds are 4-1, it seems that RHO as a counterplay : finesse our ♥T, ruff a ♦ High, and claim. Still ♥King looks like a nice shot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Even if 4♠ can be still be made double dummy, no card looks better than ♥K switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Yes, I agree that ♥K looks best, though I wouldn't have thought of it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Interesting discussion, thanks guys. At the table RHO had QJ7x Qxxx void AQT9x, so only a small spade (not the ten) continuation beats the contract. Every other card gives declarer something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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