bluecalm Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 2♣ 2♦ dbl pass3♣ pass 3♠ pass4♣ imps; both vulnerable;It was actually polish club so 2C could be 5C-4M but it doesn't matter much in this auction I think.Should 4C be forcing here ?How would you bid: AKQ62 A9 T92 T84 97 KT2 7 AKJ7632 ? I had to double instead of 2♠ in first round because we play 2♠ as not forcing (but constructive) and 3♠ as forcing natural but pomising 6 spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I think you have enough to raise to 5♣ at the end. I would also like to do more with South as it's a pretty good hand especially after being limited by the 3♣ rebid. It depends on your agreements but probably either 4♦ or 4♥ instead of 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Oh, 4♣ wasn't actual bid. My partner bid 5♣ fearing that 4♣ would be not forcing. We missed a good slam and we are wondering if we had a chance there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 It's hard to feel too bad about missing 24 HCP slams. The opponents might not even make it to game, or end up in 3NT going down on a diamond lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 What's the maximum of 2♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I think it's just a matter of agreement - you can play 3♠ as game-forcing, or you can play is as a one-round force, and there are advantages to both methods. Personally I prefer not to have any sequences that are forcing only to 4m, because I don't like having to remember what they are. This isn't particularly a Precison problem. You would have had the same problem in a standard system if the auction had started with 1♣ (2♦) and you were playing negative free-bids. In fact, it's not even a negative free-bid problem. If it had gone1/2♣ (2♦) 2♠ [forcing]3♣ 3♦4♣you would still need to know whether 3♦ was game-forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 What's the maximum of 2♣? 11-14 in general. Very good 14 like ATx x Kxx AKT9xxx is too strong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 11-14 in general. Very good 14 like ATx x Kxx AKT9xxx is too strong though. Is that points or cards. :) We usually play 2♣ as 10-15 but I have noticed that we've missed some games with the 15 counts so I'm thinking I'll upgrade many of them into 1♣ or (strong nt part of)1♦ moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted February 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 We usually play 2♣ as 10-15 but I have noticed that we've missed some games with the 15 counts so I'm thinking I'll upgrade many of them into 1♣ or (strong nt part of)1♦ moving forward. Points.We play that way only in polish club though (cause you are not forced to game opposite 8-9hcp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Given your range for 2♣, maybe it is right to rebid 4♣ right away instead of 3♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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