rduran1216 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 serious UI situation at the club [hv=pc=n&n=shjt3daj72ckt8753&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=2sp4sp(60%20second%20tank)p5c]133|200[/hv] The player who bid 5C is an A pro, playing with a client, who hesitates often. Is 5C a reasonable call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 No. While there may be hands that might pass and then act this certainly isn't one of them. I'm not sure there is a LA other than pass, but any call but pass has to be indicated by the tank and pass certainly seems LA to me, so I'd roll back to 4♠ if that scores better for E/W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 It seems obvious to roll back to 4♠. As to whether the call is reasonable: I'm sure there are situations where I'd bid it. (Certain type of opponents, making the 4♠ bid with a certain demeanor.) Whether that makes it reasonable or not, is not for me to judge. As a TD I would be very hesitant to give a PP or the like. (But us Europeans don't go for the blood as much as I believe ACBL'ers do.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 the UI suggests double more than 5♣ but still pass is the LA that should be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 5♣ can be a reasonable call if the guy was walking the dog. Any conclusion without knowing his hand and just looking at auction is just a guess here. I dunno what others meant by saying "should be rolled back to 4♠" but i doubt TD has the right to roll back any bid. He can adjust later if he believes LA was to pass over 4♠. If he decides to adjust later, i dont know ACBL but EBL and WBF has no sense of humour about using the UI. Pair or if it is a teammatch his team may get ethics penalty for that (arround 2 VP if i am not wrong unless it is changed ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 blatant cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I agree that 5C is not a reasonable call. I would assess a procedural penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Definitely not reasonable. Seldom would I issue a procedural penalty. If this was deliberate unless this was a very inexperienced and naive player this is not a matter of procedure it is much more serious. We are told it was an "A pro". Sadly i think there are too many players who are willing to take advantage in similar situations especially against weaker opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 *** Dammit partner, don't do that.! *** After game raise this 5C looks much more appealing than immediate action. I want to be free of UI in making this bid.Now I don't think any TD/committee is going to see the merits, even with the actual results of 5C showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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