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The BBO Advanced 2/1 card includes DEPO (Double Even, Pass Odd) for when the interference is above 5 of your suit. Is that not standard?

No, DEPO, DOPE, DOP1(x=0, P=1, next suit=2 etc) and D1P0 are all played, and also people vary whether if you have 2 aces, but the intervention is 5, whether you in DOPE make your normal blackwood response of 5/ or pass to show an even number.

 

I treated this as Blackwood, partner intended it as 2 places to play which were diamonds and clubs, bidding a slam in hearts was not a success.

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No, DEPO, DOPE, DOP1(x=0, P=1, next suit=2 etc) and D1P0 are all played, and also people vary whether if you have 2 aces, but the intervention is 5, whether you in DOPE make your normal blackwood response of 5/ or pass to show an even number.

 

I treated this as Blackwood, partner intended it as 2 places to play which were diamonds and clubs, bidding a slam in hearts was not a success.

 

The typical result of too many too sophisticated agreements for a non professional partnership.

 

Rainer Herrmann

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Agree Rainer.

What would 5C show if not either minor to play?

Then 4N as keys? "I know where to put this hand".

Confusion intended unless this is a well-practiced partnership.

It's a well practiced partnership, 4N is clearly blackwood IMO, and I think partner agrees now.

 

5 would be 5+-5+, partner bid 4N because he was trying to show his 0274.

 

Forcing pass is not silly, I think I'd bid 5, but this could easily be wrong.

 

We got lucky on this board, partner has void, Q9, AQxxxxx, K10xx, diamonds are KJx offside, so we only lost 5 IMPs to the sensible 5 at the other table.

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Agree Rainer.

What would 5C show if not either minor to play?

 

Just because 5 can show both minors that doesn't mean 4nt isn't also both minors. Something like 6-4 or 7-4 or 7-5 might well try 4nt for the minors, with more length in the originally opened suit.

 

So 4nt isn't automatically blackwood.

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