kayin801 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sajt3haj43dq4caq4&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1c(16+%20art.)p1d(0-7%20neg)2hppd(t/o)p]200|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I don't want to lead from this hand, and I don't like my heart spots - 2♠ always for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I don't want to lead from this hand, and I don't like my heart spots - 2♠ always for me. nah, show imigration your green card :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 nah, show imigration your green card :)You can have it, I never use it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 In my world:1) They are red, we are not2) Partner does not have 4 spades. ---with four spades and GF strength she would bid 2S, not double ---and would have longer diamonds. ---with four spades and less than GF, she would have responded 1S.3) I guess I could not double on the last round because of the "support dbl" hamstring.4) 2S removal of the double now would not show my 18 HCP, and suggest AJXX JXX QX AQxx.5) I got lucky pard kept the auction alive, and can collect at least 500 at favorable.6) The Diamond Queen is a reasonable opening lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 In my world:1) They are red, we are not2) Partner does not have 4 spades. ---with four spades and GF strength she would bid 2S, not double ---and would have longer diamonds. ---with four spades and less than GF, she would have responded 1S.3) I guess I could not double on the last round because of the "support dbl" hamstring.4) 2S removal of the double now would not show my 18 HCP, and suggest AJXX JXX QX AQxx.5) I got lucky pard kept the auction alive, and can collect at least 500 at favorable.6) The Diamond Queen is a reasonable opening lead. Please read the auction alerts :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 oh, unaware of all that.....old dog discovers something new. In that case I just pass on general principles and hope for pard to have seven points, or to get more on defense against vul guys than we can make. Is there nothing the "forcing club" guys can do to punish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Definitely never pass at IMPs. Partner doesn't need much to reopen, e.g. Qxxx x Kxxx xxxx would be a very normal double and less is possible. Only at matchpoints in a strong field would I regard pass as a choice worth considering, but I probably still wouldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Definitely never pass at IMPs. Partner doesn't need much to reopen, e.g. Qxxx x Kxxx xxxx would be a very normal double and less is possible. Only at matchpoints in a strong field would I regard pass as a choice worth considering, but I probably still wouldn't do it. yeh, well I am definitely not a Strong Club person, so I lost it on the first round. Now I am supposed to pray partner is 4-1-x-x, and bid 2S. What fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 yeh, well I am definitely not a Strong Club person, so I lost it on the first round. Now I am supposed to pray partner is 4-1-x-x, and bid 2S. What fun.wtp? Partner is bidding his hand and we are bidding ours, pass does not describe our hand so we don't pass. I certainly don't think this is a time to be complaining about playing a strong club though, if you were playing standard you'd already be at 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 wtp? Partner is bidding his hand and we are bidding ours, pass does not describe our hand so we don't pass. I certainly don't think this is a time to be complaining about playing a strong club though, if you were playing standard you'd already be at 3♠. Sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant was that, not being a big club person, I lost it on the first round of bidding because pard holding QXXX X KXXX XXXX would have probably responded 1S --and we would, in fact be getting too high. It was not a complaint about a forcing club system. However, if some third party were playing standard and up-the-line, they might do better than my partnership on this hand, too. And I don't think responder in the big club situation necessarily has to have the perfect 4-1 in the majors to make this reopening double, so am not sure removing is that clear cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I don't want to lead from this hand (...). Why not? Diamond Q seems fair. I pass, willing to give up on slam :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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