BunnyGo Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 On this hand I had a pseudo-fratricidal-criss cross squeeze. It struck me while playing the hand that this couldn't be a sure thing since the opponent decided which suit to lead (in general) and so it should never be more than just "pseudo". But I was wondering if the squeeze fiends had thought about this or considered the possibility. [hv=pc=n&s=s6432hq32da5cj432&w=st8hj5dkjt84ckq98&n=sak97hat8d976ca75&e=sqj5hk9764dq32ct6&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=pp1nppp&p=h6h2hjhas7sjs2s8h7h3h5h8sas5s3stsksqs4d4s9c6s6d8c5ctc2c8hkhqdthth9c3c9d6h4d5cqd7d2dadjd9c4ckcad3c7dqcj]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 It is just a pseudo squeeze really, West could have chucked diamonds without cost. When a squeeze like that occurs for real, it's called a Suicide Squeeze I believe. suicide squeeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted February 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 It is just a pseudo squeeze really, West could have chucked diamonds without cost. When a squeeze like that occurs for real, it's called a Suicide Squeeze I believe. suicide squeeze Yes, I know it was just a "pseudo" squeeze (see OP). I don't know if this is always called Suicide, or Fratricide, or if they are the same thing. My question is whether it is possible to have a criss-cross squeeze in a suicide situation. This one is such a squeeze, but is only "pseudo", and it strikes me that if such a non-pseudo squeeze position existed, it would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I don't think a suicide criss-cross squeeze can exist. The essence of a criss-cross squeeze is that you have to choose whether to cash an honor in hand or in dummy first. This can't work when an opponent is on lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sj32hakd3c&w=s654h54dac&n=sakhj32d2c&e=sq87hq76dc]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sj32hakd3c&w=s654h54dac&n=sakhj32d2c&e=sq87hq76dc]399|300[/hv] That's great! You take care of the "not having the lead" issue that cherdano mentioned by having 2 high honors in each hand. Very cute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 The lead could just as easily be in either N or South - they can play a diamond themselves. Squeezes where the squeeze card is a loser are basically magic imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 oh ignore that. i was talking bollocks - east has no clubs to cut declarer's entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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