skorchev Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 I don't know is this discussion the right place for this topic, but... PLEASE try to find how to popularize A K Q J 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 symbols from the paid tourneys, because for the first day I was asked 3 times what these symbols mean and how someone can get these symbols. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwdo Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hi Stephan, U been lucky with 3 questions only :D , they are countless im afraid, nobody except those playing paid tourneys seem to know what it `s about. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 From the readme.txt for the current version.... http://www.bridgebase.com/3.8.4/ministars.txt expanded below - Players can now win achievement awards for success inpay tournaments that offer masterpoints using the ACBLscale (right now that means ACBL and BBOLand) These "awards" appear as symbols on members' userprofiles in the same way that the star symbol appears.The new symbols, however, do not appear in the list of names in the lobby or in the table list. It should be noted that these symbols are NOT intended tobe any kind of "rating system" to measure a given member'sskill level. Having a lot of masterpoints is partly a measureof skill, but it is also partly a measure of participation. Here are the new symbols along with the definitions thatwe are now using for them (which are not set in stone).Only masterpoints earned on BBO count in terms ofthe following awards: A=the person who has won the most mpsK=the rest of the top 10Q=the rest of the top 50J=the rest of the top 10010=over 1000 masterpoints9=over 500 masterpoints8=over 300 masterpoints7=over 200 masterpoints6=over 100 masterpoints5=over 50 masterpoints4=over 20 masterpoints3=over 5 masterpoints2=over 1 masterpoint Our rules regarding the star symbol will not change as aresult of adding these new symbols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 From the readme.txt for the current version.... I'm sure that less than 1% of BBO members read the readme.txt file, i didn't read them too :o ... they should be popularized too. :) Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Why? Who cares about masterpoints? They are a measure of how often you play in the ACBL tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Why? Who cares about masterpoints? They are a measure of how often you play in the ACBL tournaments. I don't know who cares and who doesn't cares but there are many many players who don't know what these symbols mean. That's why I asked for any way to popularize them. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Why? Who cares about masterpoints? They are a measure of how often you play in the ACBL tournaments. Hardly fair view.. once people find out it has something to do with ACBL rating points they may not be interested. But if they see the numbers and letters, and they don't know what it is, they are very curious. The other posters here get a few questions a day. As a yellow, I get dozens of questions a day.... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I've never been asked. But, it would seem simple enough to have a user profile option not to show the symbol. (Just as it ought to be an option to not have a flag.) Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwdo Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I've never been asked. But, it would seem simple enough to have a user profile option not to show the symbol. (Just as it ought to be an option to not have a flag.) Tim hi , Stephan and i dont have a symbol in our profile (i think) but given the fact that we are fairly know(and very often online) around BBO makes ppl come ask us cause they know us. Think we both know where the symbols come from and how they are given, but a lot of folks do not and easy come towards us to ask:) therefore the proposal to get users on BBO know what it is and why :) BTW, it is possible to not display your country, simply chose "other" in the list of flags/countrys. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 BTW, it is possible to not display your country, simply chose "other" in the list of flags/countrys. There's still a flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandal Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 BTW, it is possible to not display your country, simply chose "other" in the list of flags/countrys. There's still a flag. yup it's the "flag" of United Nations I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwdo Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 hi, Chose Benin , nobody will believe it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbrvc Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 IMHO, I think these masterpoint symbols are kind of silly. First of all, you only get them by playing in ACBL tourneys, so I suppose it's a way of promoting those games. And I don't have a problem with that! So for those of us who don't plan to play in the ACBL tourneys, we will never get the recognition. Would other players think we are no good because we're not ranked? And here's my wish item related to these "symbols", lol. How about a flag that shows a player's nuisance factor? For example, like average time they take to bid and play a hand, and % of disconnects or being replaced when playing in tourneys, etc?? This might be a way to improve their behaviour on the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I don't care about these ACBL tourneys, but I hope for those who play them that there won't be an increase in cheating because of that ranking gadget. But I don't think anyone can stop this increase anyway... There's a law in any competition with rankings (it's in human's nature):Whenever there's a ranking, more and more people will cheat to raise in that ladder until they all get caught or the ladder is completely ruined. To support this rule, here are some examples:- ranking and tourneys in sports, some use forbidden medication to get better results- online gaming: I used to play a lot of strategy games. Yuri's Revenge had a ladder, but after a while it was impossible to play a nice game because of all the cheaters. 90% of the top 50 were cheaters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 IMHO, I think these masterpoint symbols are kind of silly. First of all, you only get them by playing in ACBL tourneys, so I suppose it's a way of promoting those games. And I don't have a problem with that! So for those of us who don't plan to play in the ACBL tourneys, we will never get the recognition. Would other players think we are no good because we're not ranked? And here's my wish item related to these "symbols", lol. How about a flag that shows a player's nuisance factor? For example, like average time they take to bid and play a hand, and % of disconnects or being replaced when playing in tourneys, etc?? This might be a way to improve their behaviour on the site! 1.) This symbols are taken not only from ACBL, they are taken and from BBO LAND 2.) It's not an official classation. 3.)The theme of this post is "How to popularize the Masterpoint Symbols?". Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchev Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 I don't care about these ACBL tourneys, but I hope for those who play them that there won't be an increase in cheating because of that ranking gadget. But I don't think anyone can stop this increase anyway... There's a law in any competition with rankings (it's in human's nature):Whenever there's a ranking, more and more people will cheat to raise in that ladder until they all get caught or the ladder is completely ruined. To support this rule, here are some examples:- ranking and tourneys in sports, some use forbidden medication to get better results- online gaming: I used to play a lot of strategy games. Yuri's Revenge had a ladder, but after a while it was impossible to play a nice game because of all the cheaters. 90% of the top 50 were cheaters! Hi Frederick, I don't think that Masterpoint Symbols will increase the number of cheaters. There were, are and will be classations - weekly for ACBL and monthly for BBO LAND, and the motive to cheat are the BB$ and ACBL Masterpoints. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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