Passed hand splinter

[pooltuna]

Yes pd is allowed to hold this, but it is a hand of wish, a wish where KJ ♣ is more valuable than ♣A, a wish where pd holding bad trumps is more valuable than holding good ones.

 

He is also allowed to hold;

 

KQxx

KQxx

x

Txxx

 

KJxx

Qxxx

x

Axxx

 

KQJx

JTxx

x

Kxxx

 

QJxx

Kxx

x

Axxxx

 

When he lays down these hands, we still have play at 5 level, regardless how good or bad our chances are to make, wouldnt u prefer to be in 4 ? In order to make an adventurous move to 5 level here, one must believe the hands that makes slam are more enough than the hands that risks the game.

 

agree that trying for slam is optimistic but definitely a place to try for a swing hand if you need it

[Free]

I had the passed hand splinter: KQxxx-xxxx-J-AT8. Partner ReDoubled on 4♦, I bid 5♣, and partner bid 6♠ thinking I showed ♣AK. Imo 5♣ only shows ♣A.

 

After the hand, I thought RDbl was a really bad choice. Way too few ♦s and too many ♣s. The passed hand's strength is the ruffing value and opposite Ax you only utilize 1 of the trumps. Also, you need to get rid of a few ♣s and a ♥. There are many perfect hands, but is there a decent way to investigate?

I wasn't perfectly happy with my own choice as well. With 2 keycards, an extra trump, and trump Q I thought I had to do something else than signoff over RDbl (which must show slam interest, otherwise just signoff). 4♥ would've been last train, but what would it mean? It would probably just transfer the problem to partner, and we might end up in slam with 2 or more quick losers in ♥. So I bid 5♣ thinking it just showed a nice offensive hand with a 1st round ♣ control and a problem in ♥. Still, there's no room to figure out if responder has ♣K as well.

 

All opinions are welcome!

[TWO4BRIDGE]

I had the passed hand splinter: KQxxx-xxxx-J-AT8. Partner ReDoubled on 4♦........

 

..... Still, there's no room to figure out if responder has ♣K as well.

 

All opinions are welcome!

 

There is a way to find out about the ♣ K ... by inference :

 

After Opener's RDBL ( showing the ♦ Ace),

 

Responder can bid 4S ( denying a ♥ Ctrl )...

 

Then, Opener goes RKC, even w/o a ♣ Ctrl... because partner must have points there with no red suit features:

 

4NT - 5S ( 2 + sQ ) = 9 hp... if Responder had the ♣ K as well, he would have Opened !

pass

[Siegmund]

Opposite a passed hand I am willing to bid 4S to end the auction (hopefully). Opposite an unpassed hand XX to show the ace is my usual system, and I have no complaint with anybody who does the same here.

[kgr]

At our table there was no DBL and it did go:

Pass

1S-3D (3D=10-11 with some shortage somewhere)

3H-4D (4=asking; 4D=singleton)

4H-5C

6S

- I think at your table: You have a bad hand (with too many pts in S) and you better bid 4S iso 5C.

- I think that 4H at my table and RDBL at your table was optimistic, but OK.

- I think that 6S at both tables was unnecessary. Both could have bid 5S or 5H. That should be an invite here. Responder would then bid on with SK and CAK.