luckyloser Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 suppose the bidding goes (both red, matchpoints) : 1h - 1s - 4h - ? you hold Txxx,QT,Axx,xxxx I think the first answer is easy, you bid 4s (dont you?).after 2 passes RHO bids 5h and you do not want p to encourage but also you do not want to dbl because opps may easily make. is a dbl now weaker than pass or is pass weakest and dbl promises defense? the main problem here is that 4s is not defined. it may be very strong, just a shade short of a slam try and the 4h-bidder is weak; or it may be just the other way round. what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Let's see, you don't want to double and you don't want to bid. Three hurrays for the little green card! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 i suggest the following scheme:dbl is weakest only if the partnership is in a forcing sequence. here this is not the case. so pass seems to be best. do you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 suppose the bidding goes (both red, matchpoints) : 1h - 1s - 4h - ? you hold Txxx,QT,Axx,xxxx I think the first answer is easy, you bid 4s (dont you?). No, I don't. I would like to bid 2♠, but the rules of bridge don't allow me to do that. I don't see any reason for bidding 4♠ vulnerable on four card support and a side ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 i suggest the following scheme:dbl is weakest only if the partnership is in a forcing sequence. here this is not the case. so pass seems to be best. do you agree? If you are not in a forcing pass auction (which you clearly aren't), pass is obviously the weakest action. Are you trying to make a subtle point which I am missing? Double says you think it is going off.Bidding 5S says you think you are making 5S (or that it is the right contract)Pass says you have a weak hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 It's unclear who is saving against who, and 4♠ definitely would NOT set a forcing pass. Therefore as everyone else said, this hand is a clear pass. I wouldn't have bid 4♠ in the first place, QT doubleton in the opponent's suit, flat hand, side ace, equal vulnerability, MPs... I think 5 reasons not to bid is enough here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why would I bid 4♠ on this pile of garbage? Have you all lost your minds (except ArtK78 and the vulcano)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 If i were you, i would listen to Adam, Free, and Art. We dont have a 4♠ bid. And if we did bid 4♠ and opponents bid 5♥, we already improved our position on this hand. Of course we are not in forc pass auction. Just pass and hope pd can take 2 tricks in defense. Who knows, if pd doubles, we may even score our ♥ Q B) After all declarer will play us for some shape for our 4♠ bid :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 RED, I have absolutely no reason to bid 4♠. Besides, 4♥ may go down. And true, partner might have a super hand, on which we can make 4♠ and 4♥ only 2 down... But so it is.... It is largely compensated by all those average hand, on which ♠ doesn't make, but neither does 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Pass with this!! Double when you think they overstepped, and you do not need a trump stack for it, just some defensive tricks (nor can you even HAVE a trump stack in this auction in most cases). If your opponents sre inexperienced, OR, if they play limited 1M openings (Precision, for example), be careful not to assign any specific meaning to the 4H call; it does not have to be weak although for most players it is. From my bridge logic, neither the opening side nor the overcalling side is in Forcing Pass situation, by whatever FP rules they live. Here is a link to an interesting expert discussion about FP - http://www.districtsix.org/Articles/Article%202009-06.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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