Rossoneri Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 [hv=pc=n&e=skt752hdkqt76c874&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=4hppdp4s5hpp]133|200[/hv] Do you agree that bidding 5♠ is clearcut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I don't quite agree it is obvious. If this is a Forcing Pass situation then I'd bid 5♠, but with what sort of hand would partner re-open Red vs White in 4th seat? I'd bid 5♠ myself, but I'm willing to listen and understand other points of view as I consider myself a little ignorant of these situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Yes, it is clearcut.No, it is not a forcing pass situation (LHO may have more HCP than you and partner combined) The real problem with bidding 5S is that I might have to bid 6S over 6H too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I'm kinda tempted by 6♦, but I'd content myself with 5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 The full hand: [hv=pc=n&s=sa86hjt543d854cat&w=sq943h2da93ckqj96&n=sjhakq9876dj2c532&e=skt752hdkqt76c874&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=4hppdp4s5hppp]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't quite agree it is obvious. If this is a Forcing Pass situation then I'd bid 5♠, but with what sort of hand would partner re-open Red vs White in 4th seat? I'd bid 5♠ myself, but I'm willing to listen and understand other points of view as I consider myself a little ignorant of these situations. Is it really a Forcing Pass ?I am not sure...What would be your rule ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Is it really a Forcing Pass ?I am not sure...What would be your rule ?Most have a rule, especially at this vulnerability, that a pass would be forcing if we have bid game on power and the opponents bid on. That is not the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Most have a rule, especially at this vulnerability, that a pass would be forcing if we have bid game on power and the opponents bid on. That is not the case here. Did we bid game on power ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Did we bid game on power ?Certainly seems like it, and many people have a rule that when R/W they use forcing passes more often as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think it's pretty obvious, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Certainly seems like it, and many people have a rule that when R/W they use forcing passes more often as well. Oh yes, for the 4♠ bidder, that is clear !But for the poor doubler, who now has to take a decision, on the so-called FP (?) from partner, that is not so clear. From his viewpoint, 4♠ could be on a bare minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Oh yes, for the 4♠ bidder, that is clear !But for the poor doubler, who now has to take a decision, on the so-called FP (?) from partner, that is not so clear. From his viewpoint, 4♠ could be on a bare minimum. Got this wrong again !!!Yes, it is up to the 4♠ to make a decision here.Yes, 5♠, seems some kind of an insurance...... HURRAY ! I do not think that you can call this a FP situation: if E has a worthless hand, he passes. PS - once again I learned.... tu all for those discussions....:) ♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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