jschafer Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 You open the bidding with 1♣ and the auction proceeds as follows: 1♣ - (1♥) - X - (Pass)1NT - (2♥) - 2♠ - (Pass) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 1. What was the first X?2. What would double instead of 2♠ be?3. IMPs or matchpoints? My best guess is it probably ought to be a good club raise, but if I did it undiscussed I would have a hand that is willing to play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 It doesn't seem like it could be natural. If he had 5+ spades he would have bid 1♠ in the first round; the negative double shows exactly 4. There are some pairs that invert the meanings of 1♠ and negative double, but that's not a treatment anyone should use without discussion. I suppose it's possible that he learned from someone who uses that variation, and doesn't realize it's nonstandard. If the double shows 5+, I guess bidding the suit on the second round must show 6+ (you've presumably denied 3 by bidding 1NT instead of 2♠). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 1. What was the first X?2. What would double instead of 2♠ be?3. IMPs or matchpoints?Everything standard here, Double just tends to show a hand with 4♠ and 1♠ would show 5+♠. A second double would be take out according to our agreements. The scoring was IMPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 My guess: If you don't play WJS after the overcall, this sequence should probably show one. Otherwise, this might show a weak 5=1=5=2 or 5=1=6=1 hand that was planning on passing your rebid but has no desire to defend (too scared to X for takeout for fear that you might pass :)). But this is indeed a strange auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Everything standard here, Double just tends to show a hand with 4♠ and 1♠ would show 5+♠. A second double would be take out according to our agreements. The scoring was IMPS.In that case a good club raise seems like the only hand type that can't be dealt with another way, e.g. AQxx xx Qx QJxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 That makes sense. It's similar to the Impossible Spade in 1♥-1NT-2♣-2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I agree with the others here. Impossible club raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 If you don't play WJS after the overcall, this sequence should probably show one. Agree with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 4153 looking to compete but not to play dobuled 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I agree with fluffy, though I wouldn't like to experiment with this at the table. By analogy with 1NT P P 2H; p p 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 So now that we've been speculating for several days, what DID partner have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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