dellache Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sq5hj8642daqt5ckq&n=s73hk3dkj982cat63&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1d1s2h2sppdp]266|200[/hv]1. Do you agree with 2 Hearts ? What else ? 2. Do you agree with Double ? 3. How should it proceed frome there ? 4. What would the following bids from North now show :- 3C- 3D- 3H- 3S- 3N- 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hi, #1 no, the suit quality is terrible - X#2 my impulse was no, but on reflection, I agree with X#3 3C from North, ..., 3S (Stopper ask) from South, 4C no stopper, ..., 5D#4 3C - to play, 4-4 in the minors 3D - to play, 5 card suit is most likely still possible 3H - Hx, but to play 3S - stopper ask 3NT to play 4H - ??? does not exist With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I would bid 2♥. I don't like the suit quality but we have a game forcing hand and I'd prefer to start showing that. I would double 2♠, especially when partner's pass suggests that we are now looking for the best game rather than any thoughts of slam. North has a tough call - 3♥, implying Hx, is tempting whilst 3♣ might find a second suit. As partner might have bid 3♣ himself, I'd plump for 3♥. South might just bid 5♦ at this point, or after an exploratory 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Does nobody play a form of good/bad 2N opposite this X ? I agree with the auction so far. For us N would bid 2N intending to pass partner's 3♣ but S is too good and the wrong shape to just bid 3♣ so would bid either an optimistic stop seeking 3♠ or a pessimistic 3♦ and we'd play 3 or 4 ♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 2♥ seems ok. Now with North's hand either 2NT or 3♣ seems adequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 #0 I wouldn't open this, but thats me. #1, #2 - OK #3 - Probably 3♣ now. I agree with Paul that we've denied heart support, and while 3♥ isn't a lie, its very preemptive and I think we might get the chance later. Then it will proceed 3♦ (forcing)..3♥...4♦...Pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 pass-double3♥-3♠4♣-5♦pass why is so many people bidding 3♣ with ♥Kx, note: you are not suposed to know partner's suit is Jxxxx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I agree with 2♥, and double seems fine. Over the double, North has a clear 3♥ call. South will now try 3♠, and North will bid 4♣... At this point South will probably bid 4♥ (unlikely) or 5♦, neither of which will make, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) 1. I have five hearts and a 14-count, so I can't see why I wouldn't bid 2♥. 2. On the next round, I'd bid 3♠ rather than double. That usually implies diamond support, because without diamond support I'd usually be happy to start with double. If I did double, on the next round I'd have to bid 3♠ anyway, but partner wouldn't be expecting diamond support, so he'll be less well-placed. 3. With opener's hand I'd bid 2NT, scrambling. The entire auction after responder's double would probably be 2NT-3♠4♣-5♦passIf I couldn't bid 2NT because it would be natural, I'd bid 3♣. If we belong in clubs, someone has to bid them, and taking out the double hints at secondary hearts anyway. 4. You didn't ask about 2NT, but that affects the meanings of all the other bids. If opener's 2NT would be scrambling:- 3C = natural, NF, probably not much in hearts- 3D = natural, NF, not interested in hearts- 3H = something like 4243 without much in spades- 3S = like 3H but better- 3N = a weak notrump that fancies bidding game, or can't think of anything better to do- 4H = nonexistent If 2NT would be natural, I suppose that 3♣ and 3♥ would both include this shape, depending on where the honours were. Edited January 26, 2011 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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