Phil Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=sj32hakq6dak42c86&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=p1n2sp(natural)p]133|200[/hv] Matchpoints Your call over 2♠? Need some "C" players +/- 200 mps to answer this. If you want to email me at oakleafequities@yahoo.com with a private response, that's fine. Sorry - 2♠ is natural - ignore the notation. If you are wondering, a double by partner would have been 'stolen bid' for a signoff in clubs or diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickiegera Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 The hand as given is why you should not play stolen bids. Since double for penalty is not available I would bid 3 Spades stayman and if that is not staymanI guess I would bid 3NT and hope partner has a Spade stopper or pulls it if he doesn"t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 you misread the post dickiegera. you're the 1NT opener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Pass. If I double, partner will probably bid clubs, and I'm stymied. I have good defense here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I guess I wish more C players read the forums. :( As I have done in the past, I didn't post this in the IBLF, since I didn't want to give it away this was a poll for determining LA's. The partner of this hand asked about 2♠ (not alerted) and then paused a little, and passed. I thought this hesitation and inquiry about a non alerted bid created UI. The UI seems to suggest bidding instead of passing. The tabled result was 3♠ -1 when this hand balanced and the opps competed to 3♠. I adjusted back to 2♠=. If you are curious, 4♥ makes since partner has A T9xxx xxx Qxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Pass is certainly a logical alternative. With my partnership methods, I would bid over a smooth pass (and catch pard with a 3-3-3-4 yarborough) so I wouldn't be too tough on the offender but agree with your ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Apparently it does depend on partnership agreements given ggwhiz's post. (But I've never run into any C players who had solid two-places-to-play agreements even in much more obvious spots than this one.) The way I play and the way nov/ints are taught to play, it looks like pass with nothing else to even think about, and the firing squad for anybody who bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I think pass is definitely a logical alternative, even if I might not choose it at the table, it would certainly be considered. The UI clearly suggests bidding, so I agree with your ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 and the firing squad for anybody who bids. Reminds me of one of my favorite Director rulings told to me by a friend. After 1nt - 2♥ - huddle pass - pass - 2♠, she gently called the Director as this pair was obviously new to duplicate. Since it was the 3rd time in 4 or 5 rounds that the Director was called against this pair, he looked at all the hands and said "Double and lead trumps". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Passagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegel Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, stolen bids at this level are not good. Personally, I only use X as stolen over 2♣, but over 2♦, it could work too. I play negative doubles, so with competing strength and 2 spades, partner would have doubled. I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Pass is clear, opener can't Dbl or bid anything imo. The hesitation clearly suggested bidding. Responder with that shape should've just doubled for takeout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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