gwnn Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I think you are intolerant towards sarcasm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Do you think the voting system will in effect give the general membership moderating powers to anonymously and without reason indicate that other bbf’ers contributions are unacceptable, and do you think that is a good thing?Downvotes would give the general membership the power to express that they don't like some posts. I would expect downvotes would hit annoying whining off-topic rants just as a much as their flamewar-starting responses.(I agree, though, that it would be better if downvotes are public.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antraxxx Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Why is it better to have to hijack threads and start flame wars in order to express lack of approval towards a post? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I'm not concerned with people liking or disliking contributions, although it seems rather pointless to down vote an opinion or posting style without offering a reason or alternative.Isn't that the fundmental purpose of a discussion forum? What I find concerning is the intolerance, the use of sarcasm and the up voting the sarcasm.That is exactly Arend's point, maybe with the slight difference that he talks about calling someone out, rather than making a "sarcastic" response. I think it makes perfect sense to just upvote or downvote posts rather than writing a motivating text. Sometimes, people just want to say "I agree with X" and nothing further. Then it is better just to upvote it. But especially downvoting would be a great improvement. Downvoting a post is much less disturbing than writing a response only to express disagreement with another post. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 well well Forums-expicit purpose is to get other persons point of view.upvoting/downvoting????????? newish jargon.this system not reqd.also anyone replying to a question or a point raised does not have to be an expert-be they yellow red/blue or green. now "Sarcasm" has crept in.Definition Oxford Dictionary-with due respect to Wikapedia,and any otherdictionary's is as follows. "The use of bitter words or wounding--to tear flesh"So if the writer feels some hurt,probably best to ignore it. Does down/up voting claify any grievance's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Just throw the whole damn voting system away. Like the masterpoint system, when you can only gain points/votes, you don't get an accurate rating from your score anyway. It's just a popularity contest at the moment, nothing else. Adding downvotes won't help, it would still be a popularity contest. But when people get too many downvotes, they'll just use another nickname and start all over again. Or they'll create several nicks to upvote themselves. Less is more. We don't need a facebook approach with friends, we don't need rating systems, we don't need votes for posts,... We only want to discuss bridge, have a decent quoting system, have our avatars displayed, and have a fight from time to time because someone posted something ridiculous when he was drunk. B) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 That is exactly Arend's point, maybe with the slight difference that he talks about calling someone out, rather than making a "sarcastic" response. I think it makes perfect sense to just upvote or downvote posts rather than writing a motivating text. Sometimes, people just want to say "I agree with X" and nothing further. Then it is better just to upvote it. But especially downvoting would be a great improvement. Downvoting a post is much less disturbing than writing a response only to express disagreement with another post. I can accept that an upvote is better than a "I agree with X" posting, but if we assume that most people do not intentionally post nonsense, than a written explanation why something is wrong is a lot more helpful than a downvote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Cherdano is a genius he just makes these posts to get + voted, well played sir :P 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Cherdano is a genius he just makes these posts to get + voted, well played sir :P+1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Cherdano is a genius he just makes these posts to get + voted, well played sir :P He is. I do find that my funny posts get upvoted a lot. Does this make me a better player :)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 +1Is it bad that I just upvoted that? I had a period of 3 or 4 days where everything matmat posted I thought was amazing (not that his other posts are not, just these were exceptional), and I found myself upvoting everything he wrote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 What I find concerning is the intolerance, the use of sarcasm and the up voting the sarcasm.Suppose X makes a very rude post and Y makes a sarcastic reply post to call X out on it. I would like to be able to downvote X's post, but the system does not allow this. Therefore, I upvote Y's post to show disapproval of X's post. Would we both therefore be happier if downvotes were allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I suspect you might get this passed if you are required to state why a down vote is warranted subject to moderation as well as you may not remain anonymous. The moderation point is a problem, a real stickler as none of the yellows want to take much time with this kind of moderation.Suppose there were two separate downvote counters (which count equally), one to disagree with the content and the other to dislike the attitude. Would that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I'd also like to be able to retract an upvote that I awarded rashly. If that's not feasible, then allowing downvotes would provide a way to offset a rashly-awarded upvote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I'd also like to be able to retract an upvote that I awarded rashly. If that's not feasible, then allowing downvotes would provide a way to offset a rashly-awarded upvote.JUST KIDDING! I don't really like your post, I just wanted to see the green counter go up one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Anyway, downvoting: We can consider. Probably not immediately, but sometime soon. So not a "no" to downvoting, actually probably a "yes", but in due time. Are we there yet? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Are we there yet?"How about now?" - Voice from the back seat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintaro Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Isn't Sarcasm merely the lowest form of Wit ??? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Isn't Sarcasm merely the lowest form of Wit ??? :D Actually, Oscar Wilde never actually said that. What he really said was "Sarcasm is the highest form of wit. ...................... I THINK NOT!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintaro Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Actually, Oscar Wilde never actually said that. What he really said was "Sarcasm is the highest form of wit. ...................... I THINK NOT!" :) hyah :lol: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I would like to make the case for allowing a small number of minus votes just one more time. It appears that downvoting is now allowed. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Yeah one poster even has a reputation of -19 already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I am surprised that the number of downvotes per day is so high. I would have thought a downvotes means "This post does not belong here", not "I disagree with this post". There are a few a day of the former type but not 20. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I am surprised that the number of downvotes per day is so high. I would have thought a downvotes means "This post does not belong here", not "I disagree with this post". There are a few a day of the former type but not 20.I would think a downvote says "this post is unnecessarily rude or completely absurd". Each poster's tally of upvotes vs downvotes received is called his "reputation"; hopefully, that is not a measure of our ability to file posts under the proper headings. I'd expect a high per-day total for the first few days while people go back and downvote things they wanted to downvote before that was possible. Where do you see that statistic? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I am surprised that the number of downvotes per day is so high. I would have thought a downvotes means "This post does not belong here", not "I disagree with this post". There are a few a day of the former type but not 20. I would think a downvote says "this post is unnecessarily rude or completely absurd". Each poster's tally of upvotes vs downvotes received is called his "reputation"; hopefully, that is not a measure of our ability to file posts under the proper headings. I'd expect a high per-day total for the first few days while people go back and downvote things they wanted to downvote before that was possible. Where do you see that statistic?Sorry, I didn't mean "doesn't belong to this subforum but to a different subforum" but "this is the kind of post I don't want to see on BBF". Pointless flamewars, rudeness to newcomers, etc. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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