sceptic Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 [hv=d=w&v=a&n=st982hk962d9c9542&w=sakq63haq8daq6cak&e=s7hj7dk8754cqj876&s=sj54ht543djt32ct3]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South 2♣ Pass 2♦ Pass 4NT Pass 5♦ Pass 7♦ Pass Pass Pass Hi all, I bid the 7 diamonds, our partnership bid to 4nt using kokish, when we got there we discovered that we had a whole host of falws in our agreements, basically we did not know what to do next. I would appreciate comments on what we should be doing to reach the best contract, I think 7nt is a lay down for anyones info 4nt shows 28-29 balanced in this sequence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughter Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Playing Kokish, maybe you should consider the popular version 2H rebid shows balanced FG and unlimited.If you play this style (unlimited rebid, opener plan to make strong bids to show extras)the bidding can be:2C 2D2H 2S2NT 3S(1)4D(2) 4H(3)5C(4) 5H(5)5NT(6) 7NT(7)Pass Slam bidding requires some good partnership agreements:(1) System on: 3S shows both minors.(2) Agree D. A sensible agreement to have is when Super Strong hand make a forcing agreement, it is also an RKB ask.(3) 1430. It shows 1 Keycard (both minor K should be counted)(4) A Specific Suit Ask in C. Opener is interested in grand.(5) You may play a raise to show QJ as you have denied the CK. Lacking such agreement, you can try 5H (the first step), promising third round C control.(6) Obviously an invitation to grand.(7) Holding an extra C plus the CJ, 7NT should have decent play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I would appreciate comments on what we should be doing to reach the best contract, I think 7nt is a lay down Double dummy, 7NT makes after any lead except a spade. However, try it on a spade lead, and if they play north for 4 spades and the heart king on anyohter lead (cash heart ACE, run all minor winners), then someone would probably raise a big eyebrow and wonder about cheating. The spade lead breaks the communication for the squeeze. Now, 7NT is a better contract than 7D... becasue, if diamonds run, 7NT also makes, and if diamonds don't run, you have squeeze possibilities and if necessary, simply the heart hook to try. So the right place to be is 7nt... instead of 7D. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I wonder why you play in 7♦ if you won't need your trumps to ruff losers... If there's no reason to play in trump (weak/short suit usually), then it's usually better to play NT <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 i don't see anything wrong with the bidding... you can always bite the bullet (if you're bidding the grand anyway) and bid 7NT, based on the supposedly running diamonds and the rest of your monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 What's wrong with the bidding is that east may have had a far worse hand. West bid the grand all by himself or herself, and is not good enough. Over the Kokish variation where 2NT is balanced gameforcing there is much more room to have a cooperative auction to 7NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 you are right, there are better ways to find this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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