Fluffy Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 ♠AK10♥5♦AQ♣KJ98765 All vul, MPs (but say so if you'd do different at IMPs), south is dealer 1♣-(1♥)-pass-(pass)?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 im bidding 2C. I may be rolling 3NT if partner has Q10xx of hearts and Q of clubs, but thats really stretching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Double. Too strong for any other action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Double with this strong hand ... and protect partner since you are playing the Neg-DBL convention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 I would double. I think 3♣ is not unreasonable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 3♣ for me. I'd like better clubs, but I think we'll have a LOT more problems after a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Double looks normal. The spade and diamond holdings will be useful in defence, so I won't mind if partner passes. If he bids 1♠ or 2♦, I'll bid 3♣ anyway, which presumably shows a strong hand. I think a direct 3♣ should look more like AQx x Kx KQJxxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 I learned this rule early when deciding whether to X or bid a suit: Would I have passed if partner made a penalty X? Here I certainly would, I have a 7 card suit but I have a ton of defense on the outside also, so I double. Of course rule does not necessarily apply if you cannot handle the auction if partner bids the other major (like, you have a stiff there), but that's not the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 I learned this rule early when deciding whether to X or bid a suit: Would I have passed if partner made a penalty X? I learned the same rule. Good principle, helped a lot with many doubling decisions. The only place we differ is "here I certainly would": MPs + opps vul is good news, but I'd still be very worried about sitting for a 1-level double. (Not MP, or opps NV, and I wouldn't even dream of passing.) I voted 3C with some reluctance. Not that I expect anybody to take my opinions over Justin's :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Double looks normal enough. I would like better clubs for 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I doubled wich was a bottom, only 500 partner had ♠x♥KJ98x♦Jxx♣Qxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 It just has no relation to reality that we have 11 clubs, they have 9 spades 8 diamond and 7 hearts, and they play 1H X. I guess they got us by not running to their 9 card fit...unlucky, partner having 4 clubs is a freak happening, I really wouldn't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't think partner should be trying to defend 1♥ when he has four-card support and he knows the opponents have a spade fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't think partner should be trying to defend 1♥ when he has four-card support and he knows the opponents have a spade fit.Exactly.The fit makes defending 1♥X much less attractive, and also after passing the bidding might be at 2♠, by the time it gets back to you in which case you will regret not showing your fit and values immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't think partner should be trying to defend 1♥ when he has four-card support and he knows the opponents have a spade fit. I don't see why partner should worry about them having a spade fit. If they run to spades, he can still support clubs then. It's not like they are likely to preempt us in spades after we pass for penalties. He doesn't have a particularly good fit for clubs, and his hearts are very defensive. It seems right to pass, little does he know that we have a 7-4 club fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't see why partner should worry about them having a spade fit. If they run to spades, he can still support clubs then. It's not like they are likely to preempt us in spades after we pass for penalties. He doesn't have a particularly good fit for clubs, and his hearts are very defensive. It seems right to pass, little does he know that we have a 7-4 club fit. I meant that responder should bid on the first round. What would you do with the responding hand after1♣ 1♥ pass 1♠pass 2/3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't see why partner should worry about them having a spade fit. If they run to spades, he can still support clubs then. It's not like they are likely to preempt us in spades after we pass for penalties. He doesn't have a particularly good fit for clubs, and his hearts are very defensive. It seems right to pass, little does he know that we have a 7-4 club fit. If West had 5+♥ and 4+♠ would he not have doubled? This suggests that East has longer ♠ than West and if East is not strong enough to introduce a new suit at the 2 level (which is likely the case), they won't find their ♠ fit, if North makes a move like 2♣ or 1NT. This also suggests that East could run to 1♠ if he is scared to play 1♥X and if East is to weak to run, we might have missed game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 There are some people who double with some 4531's over 1C, but that doesn't mean that all people do it always with 4-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Even though this might sound like resulting, I would 1. dbl as opener and 2. pull with pard's hand to 2♣. Reasons: 1. I definitely want to defend 1♥ oppsite, say, Qxx KJ98x Jxxx x. 2. Responder is a bit weakish and the club fit is a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 3C - I have 7 of those. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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