kgr Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=shaq432dqj32ckj32&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=3sp4s]133|200[/hv]MP'sYesterday I had a hand like the above. What do you call?DBL's is takeout, but partner will often pass it. 4NT is 2-suited, but maybe you can also bid that with 3 suit?What change is needed to your hand to change the bid between pass <=> DBL/4NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pass. Double will lead to some really good scores (mostly when partner bids) but more bad scores. At IMPs I would double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I would double at any form of scoring. You'd have to take away at least a Q for me to pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 If you don't double on these hands you get robbed blind. Obvious double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Pass. Double will lead to some really good scores (mostly when partner bids) but more bad scores. At IMPs I would double. Really? Edit: ??? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Double for take-out looks completely normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 when I read han's post I really though he was kust joking saying pass, because double would lead to a good result and poor opponents don't deserve it or something like. I though all serious players would double here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 this seems to be a thread between pass and dble, I thought it was going to be between dble and 4N :P I would dble. I would imagine that when partner passes -1 and = are both fairly common. I would imagine the long term expectation is not that high in that respect, but if partner can bid, then your almost certainly onto a massive win with this hand. xxxxxAKxxxxxx or something could be a double game swing. EDIT: I didnt notice it was MP. In that case I think it its probably close to a pass. +200 would be a massive win, but you will get plenty of field protection in 4s-1 undoubled. Also, rho will have a better hand to raise the preempt normally at MP particularly are red vs green. I would still dble, but it feels close now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 partner had a 3334 and 4 or 6 pts and passed 4SX made.(...I don't remember her actual hand :( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 The actual hand doesn't matter, partner should always pass with 3334. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogeshdg Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Pass . No need to gamble yet :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogeshdg Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 If you don't double on these hands you get robbed blind. Obvious double. The joke will be on you when you find out rho has a strong hand :) and your pd passes 4spades x or you get xed in 5 of anything :). No need to gamble yet :) plenty of money in the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I double, in any form of scoring. Even after i just read that 4♠ doubled making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 The hand is very defensive... think I'd pass, but dbl might work out fine here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegel Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I don't know whether or not RHO has a decent hand. If so, we could be in trouble. Depending on who my partner and opponents are, I would pass or double. I would like to bid 4NT for 3 suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 It is very tempting to bid something. As I remember, most of the time pass is the right thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Pass . No need to gamble yet :) What do you mean "Gamble yet"? If you are not going to double do you think your partner will? Dream on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Pass . No need to gamble yet :)"Yet"?? The auction is over if we pass! I'd Dbl. Seeing the description of Dbl, Koen already told us that Dbl would work out poorly. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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