rduran1216 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sj3ht93dk9caqt863&n=sq5h64daqt8743ck5&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1dp2c2h3dp3hp4dppp]266|200[/hv] Playing standard with a D- level partner. How should these hands be bid at these colors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 weren't we just having a forum appropriateness discussion a couple of days ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 1♦-(ps)-2♣-(2♥)ps-(ps)-3♣-all pass North won't like it, but bidding 3♦ and both rounds would be GF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 1♦ pass 2♣ 2♥3♦ pass pass pass looks normal to me. If you play 3♦ as promising extras, you may have to work out how to deal with 1♦ pass 2♣ 2♥pass 2♠ 3♣ 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Surely they make at least three of a major anyway, or can you take four minor suit tricks plus a trump promotion if they play in spades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 1♦ pass 2♣ 2♥3♦ pass pass pass looks normal to me. If you play 3♦ as promising extras, you may have to work out how to deal with 1♦ pass 2♣ 2♥pass 2♠ 3♣ 4♠ Fair enough. But then tell us how do you handle stronger hands? Say the same hand but with the ♠ace instead of the ♠5. What do you do over 2♥? play a forcing Pass?3♦ may not promise extras, but neither does it deny it in my opinion. Given that East-West may well have game in the majors, North-South should not have done too badly, buying the contract in 4♦. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Fair enough. But then tell us how do you handle stronger hands? Say the same hand but with the ♠ace instead of the ♠5. What do you do over 2♥? play a forcing Pass?As in almost all competitive auctions, I accept a loss of accuracy on the good hands so that I can compete sensibly on the less good ones. With a good hand and diamond length I'd have to start with double, 3♥, or some number of notrumps. As usual, a better answer is to play transfers from 2NT upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Wtp??? opps have like 3 or 4 of a major on and it seems like we kicked them out of the bidding, so I don't see where the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 As in almost all competitive auctions, I accept a loss of accuracy on the good hands so that I can compete sensibly on the less good ones.A 2/1 is almost GF the way I play, so I am more worried about the hands were we are really stronger than the hands were we both sides are about equal. But this might not be your 2♣/1♦ style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 High on my partnership wishlist is to adopt a style that allows us to bid our good suits in competitive auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 A 2/1 is almost GF the way I play, so I am more worried about the hands were we are really stronger than the hands were we both sides are about equal. But this might not be your 2♣/1♦ styleI was trying to reply in the context of the original poster's style. I assume that "standard" meant "Standard American". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 don't tell me you claim to know Standard American, you could tell me you knew who killed Kennedy and I would believe it sooner :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 We need to get some S-inhibitor AND H-inhibitor bid in!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 don't tell me you claim to know Standard American, you could tell me you knew who killed Kennedy and I would believe it sooner :)But I do know who killed Kennedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 1♦ pass 2♣ 2♥3♦ pass pass pass looks normal to me. If you play 3♦ as promising extras, you may have to work out how to deal with 1♦ pass 2♣ 2♥pass 2♠ 3♣ 4♠ Your partner just reversed the previous hand with Jx QJxx KJxxx Kx Opponents are not top shelf. Partner will gladly bid 2C with 7HCP and 5 clubs AQJxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 SO WHAT?! This is an A/E forum, if partner is a total idiot and we have to mastermind everything, why on earth is this here?!?!!?!?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 SO WHAT?! This is an A/E forum, if partner is a total idiot and we have to mastermind everything, why on earth is this here?!?!!?!?! ok change the question. Is 3D here forward going or showing a hand like this one at these colors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 OK this is a much better question, and sorry about my above response, I was tilted a slight bit -- was down 51 IMPs in a short match. Anyway, I think 3♦ is competitive here since G/B 2N wouldn't apply. This creates a problem on the stronger hands, but I think overall playing it as competitive will be more practical. This is one of the problems with playing 1♦-2♣ as INV+ though, and is why I prefer to play 1♦-3♣ as an INV with clubs, and 2♣ as GF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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