dboxley Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=sj6hakq74dt8cj632&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=p]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszeszycki Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 pass at imps at MP you can probably talk me into a weak 2 heart bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=sj6hakq74dt8cj632&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=p]133|200[/hv] 1h no problem yet...pard expects this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I used to open these hands, now I grit my teeth, pass and hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I thought I was a more conservative opening bidder than most but I would always open this. Unsupported jacks aren't great but the 5422 shape including AKQxx makes up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Open 1♥ because the Oracle reveals that the hand is worth exactly 12.20 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 2♥ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I can't imagine 2H with this hand in second seat. Certainly its an agreement thing, but with 3 quick tricks and 2 hearts, I'm bidding 4H if I'm your partner. At least if I open 1H we'll get to the much better 3NT contract. 3rd seat, I agree with 2H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 My experience with this type hand (near opener with good H) is partner takes me for real and too high.First into the auction when our H-fit verses their S-fit seems to get LHO eager to 1S overcall -- outbid anyway.I've put this type into reopening.No problem responding to partner: 2H>1C(5xH-good, 4-fit), 1H>1D, 2H>1S, H-xfer then 3NT to 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 1 or 2♥, with no particular preference. Certainly 2 in 3rd seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 2♥ is horrible. What happened to the idea that second-seat preempts should be pure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 It was replaced by the idea that preempts are judgement bids, to be made when the situation calls for it. In this particular case you normally pick 1♥, but if one of the opps looks like he's aching to bid, 2♥ is definitely more adequate :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I can live with 1♥ or pass (playing decent openings). 2♥ is asking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 what a nice 1♥ opener. 11 points, not 5332, great suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 If you have an agreement to open any 11 then 1♥. The problem is not this hand it is the system required to handle weak opening like this and the discipline required to stay in system. Consequently this is an auto pass for me with any pickup and anyone who insists on 2/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 this is not any 11. it's not: AxKQxxxJxxJxx (even though I suppose the above is also slightly better than a random 11) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I would pass both the original hand and Csaba's hand. In 3rd seat I can see a weak two, but partner expects more defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 2H second seat red I have no words for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'd open this 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 this is not any 11. it's not: AxKQxxxJxxJxx (even though I suppose the above is also slightly better than a random 11)any 11 means QJxQJxQJxQxxx qualifies. The test is to stay out of trouble when you have to open this and partner has crapola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 2H second seat red I have no words for... ALERT!!! JLOGIC LEFT SPEECHLESS :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 any 11 means QJxQJxQJxQxxx qualifies. The test is to stay out of trouble when you have to open this and partner has crapolado you think the hand in the opening post is an average 11 point hand? if you think so, why do you think K&R considers it 12.20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=sj6hakq74dt8cj632&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=p]133|200[/hv]IMO 1♥ = 10, _P = 9, 2♥ = 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 do you think the hand in the opening post is an average 11 point hand? if you think so, why do you think K&R considers it 12.20? I think you would find many weak 2's would rate at 12-13 on the K & R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I think you would find many weak 2's would rate at 12-13 on the K & R. to wit:K&R (AKT432 T9 QT2 T9) = 12.95 but I am still not opening 1♠ just like I am not opening the other hand 1♥. K&R, like LTC, or LOTT is just a guide. My gut tells me the hand, if I choose to open it, will cause me more problems than if I respond with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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