Underbidders R us

[matmat]

Q987xx

x

x

T86xx

 

ATx

A6

AT87xx

KQ

 

 

South deals. favorable, imps.

 

1♦-(1NT)-2♠-(P)

3♠- all pass

 

10 tricks were made.

Which hand ought to bid more, if at all?

[mikestar13]

South should raise to 4♠. North can't have a balanced 6 count here--he will have a little extra in strength or shape. Particularly, notice that partner's stiff ♦ is gold while he thinks it is wasted--and a stiff is hardly unlikely opposite a six carder.

[Trinidad]

I think the bidding was fine. Switch the round suits and you won't get 10 tricks.

 

If you want to change anything South could have bid 2NT rather than 3♠ to show a genuine invitation to 4♠. In that case North might have bid the game.

 

Did they bid game at the other table? (Or in XIMPs: did you lose anything on the board?)

 

Rik

[Fluffy]

I would play 2♠

[gnasher]

I think the bidding was fine. Switch the round suits and you won't get 10 tricks.

Game is still playable opposite A10x KQ A10xxxx Ax. The 1NT bidder is unlikely to hold a doubleton club, because that would often give him a 1♥ ovecall or a takeout double.

 

If game is mediocre even when five of opener's points are wasted, we probably did underbid.

 

If you want to change anything South could have bid 2NT rather than 3♠ to show a genuine invitation to 4♠. In that case North might have bid the game.

I think 2NT should be asking for a shortage. That would work well here - opposite short hearts South is clearly worth game.

[Gerben42]

Assuming you play transfers here, would you superaccept as opener and if not, would you move again as north after 1♦ (1NT) 2♥ (Pass) 2♠ (Pass).

[pooltuna]

Well the answer should be clear if you would bid 2♠ in this auction holding

♠Q987xx ♥xx ♦xx ♣xxx

[Phil]

I think 2NT should be asking for a shortage. That would work well here - opposite short hearts South is clearly worth game.

 

Or Ogust.

[nige1]

Well the answer should be clear if you would bid 2♠ in this auction holding ♠Q987xx ♥xx ♦xx ♣xxx

Agree with Pooltuna.

[losercover]

I south had opened 1NT and west passed, with 6-1-1-5 distribution a Texas transfer isn't unreasonable.

[whereagles]

2♠ is normally defined as 5-9 or thereabouts, i.e. midly constructive. In light of this, opener should raise it to 4.

 

Responder doesn't really have his bid, but that's another story. Since 4♠ makes, all is forgiven lol.

[HeartA]

2♠ is normally defined as 5-9 or thereabouts, i.e. midly constructive. In light of this, opener should raise it to 4.

 

Responder doesn't really have his bid, but that's another story. Since 4♠ makes, all is forgiven lol.

Agree.

[MrAce]

2♠ is normally defined as 5-9 or thereabouts, i.e. midly constructive. In light of this, opener should raise it to 4.

 

Responder doesn't really have his bid, but that's another story. Since 4♠ makes, all is forgiven lol.

 

With all due respect, how did u come up with this 5 to 9 bean count. And do you really think responder doesn't have his bid and forgiven because 4♠ making ? Take out 1 ace from his pd's hand, and make it 13 hcp, don't u still make 2♠ probably with an overtrick ?

 

 

QJTxxx xxx x xxx

 

Q987xx xx x xxxx

 

Txxxxxx xx x xxx

 

All these hands are 2♠ bid in favourable colors. In defense u watch declarer, as he cashes his tricks in 4♥ while ur side has a decent 4♠ save for -100, -300 instead of -620 when pd has only 12 hcp and ♠ fit. Both sides making game is possible.

 

Your hand worths nothing in defense, while it offers a good offense when your suit is trump.

 

Lets make pd's hand less sexy, lets throw 2 of his aces to trash and add some deuces. Axxx xx Qxxxx KQ or add ♠K AKx xx xxxxxx KQ. Or just add ♠ J so game has a play on a finesse. Note that opponents will BID and make 4♥, while u make or go down 1 in 4♠. :)

[Lurpoa]

Q987xx

x

x

T86xx

 

ATx

A6

AT87xx

KQ

 

 

South deals. favorable, imps.

 

1♦-(1NT)-2♠-(P)

3♠- all pass

 

10 tricks were made.

Which hand ought to bid more, if at all?

 

4♠ cannot be wrong....

[whereagles]

1. how did u come up with this 5 to 9 bean count.

 

2. Take out 1 ace from his pd's hand, and make it 13 hcp, don't u still make 2♠ probably with an overtrick ?

 

3.

QJTxxx xxx x xxx

Q987xx xx x xxxx

Txxxxxx xx x xxx

 

All these hands are 2♠ bid in favourable colors. In defense u watch declarer, as he cashes his tricks in 4♥ while ur side has a decent 4♠ save for -100, -300 instead of -620 when pd has only 12 hcp and ♠ fit. Both sides making game is possible.

 

1. huh?? It's textbook stuff. You don't really think I take 5-9 literally? I know perfectly well some 2-counts are worth the bid. I just don't think this particular 2-count is one such case. This is because the suit isn't very solid and there's a risk pard is unbalanced with diamonds, in which case he may very well have a singleton spade.

 

2. Take out the spade support and 2♠ probably makes with an undertrick :)

 

3. I don't think it's a lock opps have a game. I accept 2♠ with hand 1, but the other two are a bit borderline, especially with the diamond singleton. If pard had opened 1♣, it would be more tempting.

[JLOGIC]

Are people just routinely biddin 2S here on a yarb or something? I don't understand how south can not bid game, or how north can be expected to over 3S...