Take-out double

[Hanoi5]

All Red, bidding goes:

 

1♥ X 3♥ Pa

Pa ???

 

Assuming 3♥ is pre-emptive, what do you need to have for a 4♦ bid here? How about for another double?

 

Then, after:

 

1♥ X 3♥ Pa

Pa 4♦ 4♥ ???

 

What would you bid with:

 

♠98xx

♥Txx

♦Jxxx

♣Kx

[Fluffy]

support

[MrAce]

if he bids 4♦, i will bid 5♦ with this. As Fluffy said sometimes strong hand only needs a support for a self sufficient game or slam.

 

With a suit like AKQJxx and a lot of side beans, people count tricks and open 2♣, or bid the game/slam whatever they think they can make themselves. But they cant do that with a suit like AKxxxx(x). And sides are almost covered. All he needs is a freaking xxx(x) support.

 

For example Kx void AKxxxxx AKQx or A x AKxxxxx AKQx and of course he aint gonna make another double with this. (in your example he can't have ♣ K so make it stiff ♣ Ace and AKQ ♠, i was giving example in general)

 

I am a very huge "support with support" fan :) I would raise to 5 ♦ w/o ♣K and ♦ J too.

 

EDIT: I just saw RHO bid 4♥ so most people will bid 5♦ anyway, "if not make, it is good save" logic. I would bid 5♦ w/o 4♥ from RHO.

[ewleongusa]

All Red, bidding goes:

 

1♥ X 3♥ Pa

Pa ???

 

Assuming 3♥ is pre-emptive, what do you need to have for a 4♦ bid here? How about for another double?

 

Then, after:

 

1♥ X 3♥ Pa

Pa 4♦ 4♥ ???

 

What would you bid with:

 

♠98xx

♥Txx

♦Jxxx

♣Kx

 

I think RHO is rebidding hearts because he has at least five of them so partner is probably void in hearts.

Also, partner has said he has a long diamond suit with a hand too good to overcall so I would give partner at least 17-18 hcp.

 

Now consider that partner could hold something like: S Ax H -- D AKQxxxx C Axxx or the equivalent so our side can possibly make 6D even though we only have just about half of the deck in hcp. So I think bidding just 5D without thinking about slam is very conservative. I would bid 5C to show a key useful card for partner. I can hardly have a long club suit as I didn't bid clubs earlier and I can hardly be looking for a club fit at the five level since partner didn't promise club support when he bid 4D. Partner may not be able to bid a cold slam in all cases but at least you did your best to help him.

 

Eric Leong

[4321]

+1. But I expect a singleton in partner's hand (3♥ - pass - pass). So my Ass is good.

6♦.

[nige1]

All Red, bidding goes:

1♥ X 3♥ Pa

Pa ???

Assuming 3♥ is pre-emptive, what do you need to have for a 4♦ bid here? How about for another double?

Then, after:

1♥ X 3♥ Pa

Pa 4♦ 4♥ ???

What would you bid with: ♠ 98xx ♥ Txx ♦ Jxxx ♣ Kx

IMO, After

(1♥) _X (3♥) _P;

(_P) ??

• _X just shows a slightly stronger hand than originally promised e.g. ♠ Axxx ♥ x ♦ AKxx ♣ AQxx
• 4♦ shows a powerful hand with a long suit e.g. ♠ Ax ♥ K ♦ AQxxxxx ♣ AJx

Now after

(1♥) _X (3♥) _P;

(_P) 4♦ (4♥) ??

 

5♦ = 10, 6♦ = 8, 4♠ = 6, _P = 4, _X = 1.

[dake50]

Yup, 5C.

My hand is monster if partner likes a C-top.