kgr Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 This question comes from another post:If you play Italian controls (1st and 2nd controls) and you rebid a control is that generally showing?:- 1st control; or (Ax. or void)- 1st and 2nd control (A, AK or void) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 First and second round control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 First and Second... Keycard is usually fine otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 1st and 2nd seems to be standard.I never realised this (I should check this with my partner)....Maybe you don't need 1st only because RKC can cover these. If anyone has seen an explanation for this preference then I would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Repeat says 'first wasn't Zia control'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Wrong forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 AK or void, I try not to with stiff ace if I have an alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Wrong forum.What forum should I have used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Actually, it depends... If the control bid is truly a side control situation (neither a suit you already showed or one that partner already showed), then IMO the only assured thing is first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 This is what I found in an old document (1990) of Claudio Petroncini and Giorgio Belladonna:Repeating one’s cue-bid that had not specified the type of control or making a cue-bid in a suit skipped by partner confirms 1st-round control in the suit[/Quote]Skipping a suit, in which the player has shown a control directly (with a cue-bid) or indirectly (continuing the dialogue despite partner have denied a control in the suit), specifies 2nd-round control only of the suit skipped[/Quote]Is this old or is it played differently in Italy...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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