raist Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 your hand is -xxAKxxxxAJTxx you are white, opps are redyou open 1D, and the bidding goes 1D- (dbl)-1H - (2S)2N*-(dbl)-pass-(pass)3C- (4S) -dbl-(pass)pass-(rdbl)do you run from the rdbl? how clear is it? *2N is good/bad, a relay to 3C to show a distributional hand without extras if it matters, you are playing against unknown opposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Why would i even think of running ? Didn't i show 2 suiter minors ? YesDidn't i show a weaker hand by 2NT instead of direct 3♣? YesDon't i have more quick tricks than an average weak 2 suiter would offer in defense? Yes. So I pass, Wtp ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raist Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 indeedi'm just trying to gather opinions cos i had a disagreement with my partner after she ran, thinking that her tricks may not be cashing "because her hand was so distributional"but it wasn't very much more distributional than she advertised (65 instead of 55)and they were quick tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 +1000, next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 This should be in the B/I forum....I don't think many good players would even consider running. In fact, this hand has significantly more defence than promised...I'd have bid 3♣ to show a good hand rather than using good-bad.....this is a powerful hand opposite any degree of fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 This should be in the B/I forum....I don't think many good players would even consider running. In fact, this hand has significantly more defence than promised...I'd have bid 3♣ to show a good hand rather than using good-bad.....this is a powerful hand opposite any degree of fit. Indeed, KNR rated this hand close to 18 hcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think running could be right (.5% of the time), but I will never choose it. So I want to choose number 3 and 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think running is awful : 1. I could have x xx KQJxx KQJxx (BTW I'd bid 3♣ if playing GB-2NT)2. Instead I have much more defense than I already promised (A AK!, even the ♣J may matter)3. Partner clearly has doubled on the basis of no defensive tricks in my hand.4. Actually running means "partner's double was probably totally stupid, LHO know probably what he's doing, let's trust LHO". This could seriously damage partnership's confidence. Oh la la :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 your hand is -xxAKxxxxAJTxx you are white, opps are redyou open 1D, and the bidding goes 1D- (dbl)-1H - (2S)2N*-(dbl)-pass-(pass)3C- (4S) -dbl-(pass)pass-(rdbl)do you run from the rdbl? how clear is it? *2N is good/bad, a relay to 3C to show a distributional hand without extras if it matters, you are playing against unknown oppositionI think running is clear.You bid 1H with a doubleton and then DBL'ed 4S with a void.You never know that this works out, but if opps REDBL then I run to a minor (I have a double fit for partner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I have AK A and partner doubled them and sat...no I do not run lol. Running is just straight up trusting LHO way more than partner. He heard them double and double and bid 4S r/w. He knows they have the nuts and he still doubled. In context of my own bidding, I have an awesome hand for defense for him. If I had --- xx KQJTxx KQJTx I would run, but not even close with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 PASS! I have a huge hand for the bidding with an AK-A. 2N is awful. How can this ever be considered a 'bad' 3♣ call lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I think running is clear.You bid 1H with a doubleton and then DBL'ed 4S with a void.You never know that this works out, but if opps REDBL then I run to a minor (I have a double fit for partner) Are u okay there m8 ? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 PASS! I have a huge hand for the bidding with an AK-A. 2N is awful. How can this ever be considered a 'bad' 3♣ call lol.I reach into my pocket for the backgammon dice, and place the 8 in front of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Am I believing solid spades and H-void? After partner doubled?I do have 3xDT. Which is the void, if they are making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Are u okay there m8 ? :lol: He's obviously fine. And humourus too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Why would i even think of running ? Didn't i show 2 suiter minors ? YesDidn't i show a weaker hand by 2NT instead of direct 3♣? YesDon't i have more quick tricks than an average weak 2 suiter would offer in defense? Yes. So I pass, Wtp ? I don't think I could have expressed this any better myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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