Fluffy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 ♠A109643♥AK4♦K3♣K3 1♠-1NT (forcing) what now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 2N, nothing else comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Good hand for gazzili or some variation thereof. Anyway, gwnn is seriously lacking in imagination :) 2NT is ok, but 3♠ should also do the trick. And if you really wanna get immaginative, how about an off-side 2♥? It works wonders in all cases except if pard raises you to 4 lol; check this: 1♠ 1NT2♥ ..? now if pard bids pass: pard will have 24 or 13 majors. Even if pard is very weak, 2♥ should have some play for.2♠: at least 6-2 fit guaranteed. Raise to 3.2NT: simple raise to 3.3m: easy pass.3♥: now 3♠. Pard might send you back to hearts, but he could also try 4♠ or 3NT.4♥: this is the bad one, as pard might easily have only 4 card support and 3NT is cold. I greatly dislike stealing a card, but I managed to convince myself 2♥ isn't a bad bid at all, ahah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I like raising 3♠ rebids to 4 with a singleton or even a void whenever my hand is not super soft, so I really hate it with ATxxxx. I don't like 2♥ because I don't have 4 hearts and I don't know what I am gaining? Why is 3m an easy pass for example, why is it not better to tell partner about my values first and let him decide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 ♠A109643♥AK4♦K3♣K3 1♠-1NT (forcing) what now? Colors and scoring ALWAYS matter. IMO your choices are 2NT,3♠, and 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 2N. Hopefully we play some kind of transfers here. Never thought about it but what if 1♠ - 1N - 2N - 3♥ - 3♠ - 3N showed a doubleton spade and a choice of games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 that's what Fred plays :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 2N. Hopefully we play some kind of transfers here. Never thought about it but what if 1♠ - 1N - 2N - 3♥ - 3♠ - 3N showed a doubleton spade and a choice of games? Thats a nice scheme there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I don't play transfers, but I play 3♣ asking bid so partner can bid 3♠ with 6 or 3 red with 4. Sadly this treatment was unavaible for the pair that faced this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 When I first saw this thread, my immediate reaction was "Oh coo, they found a new prime" Immediately followed by "17,6322" seems awfully small for a new prime and then "17,6322" isn't even prime FWIW, I think that 2N is obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 "17,6322" isn't even prime No, but 632217 is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 No, but 632217 is. If by "is" you mean "has only two prime factors", that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 When I first saw this thread, my immediate reaction was "Oh coo, they found a new prime" Immediately followed by "17,6322" seems awfully small for a new prime and then "17,6322" isn't even prime FWIW, I think that 2N is obviousMy understanding from the years on this forums has been that prime is used to qualify a hand with very good honnors, specially top tricks. I am not sure if you are joking or if I am misusing prime on this context. Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 i think hrothgar is just a math nerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 My understanding from the years on this forums has been that prime is used to qualify a hand with very good honnors, specially top tricks. I am not sure if you are joking or if I am misusing prime on this context. Please explain. Hi Fluffy Your use of the word prime was entirely appropriate.However, when I read the title, my brain was in math mode so I parsed the phrase very differently... My posting was intended for amusement value. It most certainly was not intended as criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 A math nerd would know right away that 632217 is a multiple of three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Which again proves that I am not a math nerd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Which again proves that I am not a math nerd. OK, then just a nerd :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losercover Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 With that hand, 2NT. With a better spade suit 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 With that hand, 2NT. With a better spade suit 3S. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 My understanding from the years on this forums has been that prime is used to qualify a hand with very good honnors, specially top tricks. I am not sure if you are joking or if I am misusing prime on this context. Please explain. I don't know the Spanish term, but a prime number is a whole number that is only divisible by itself and one. Oh wait, http://math2.org/math/spanish/eng-spa.htm#P says that it is el número primo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 yeah, is not that I don't know that sense of prime, just that seems that word has more meanings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 When I first saw this thread, my immediate reaction was "Oh coo, they found a new prime" Immediately followed by "17,6322" seems awfully small for a new prime and then "17,6322" isn't even prime FWIW, I think that 2N is obvious17 is prime, 6322 is just the distribution Richard :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 2NT was the answer, if you bid 3♠ partner will raise with low singleton to an impossible contract, 3NT is cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 3S absolutely has to show a better suit than this. 2NT looks right on in all senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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