TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 ♠ A Q 10 8 5 2 ( Edit: A Q... not A K as I originally showed )♥ K♦ K 7♣ K J 9 6 2/1 context You open 1S.. partner responds a forcing 1NT! .Instead of rebidding 2S, you rebid 2C planning on rebidding Spades again to show the stronger 6 4 6 bidding over the 6 6 4 . 1S - 1NT!2C - 3Hjump?? What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 How did partner's hand improve? Not a 2H:GF 2/1, but now a jump 3H? He always intended to support spades (3-support limit) and likes C-fit with S-fit enough to advance Q 3H (or splinter 3H).3S as planned to show the good suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I assume that partner is showing an invitational hand with 6+ hearts. One of the basic rules of bidding is that one quits early with misfits. So you would usually pass 3♥ with short hearts and a weak hand. The corollary to this rule is that a bid by you shows extras. Furthermore, a bid of 3♠ must show 6...and partner can work out (ieven if he is ignorant of the rule mentioned above) that you have to have extras snce you chose to rebid 2♣ rather than 2♠...thus, as you planned, you are showing a good 6=4 or so. Note, this is not perfect.....with a minimum 6-5 blacks you might well choose to bid 2♣ anyway. But 6-5 hands arise far less frequently than do 6-4 hands. All of this is by way of saying that 3♠ shows most of your hand....but I wouldn't make that call. My stiff heart K is good enough for me to raise to 4♥. Put another way, I know that my hand will provide tricks for partner in hearts....I don't know that his hand will provide a lot of help to me in spades....I would be concerned that I may not be able to enjoy his hearts in spades, but am more confident he can enjoy my spades in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 ♠ A K 10 8 5 2♥ K♦ K 7♣ K J 9 6 2/1 context You open 1S.. partner responds a forcing 1NT! .Instead of rebidding 2S, you rebid 2C planning on rebidding Spades again to show the stronger 6 4 6 bidding over the 6 6 4 . 1S - 1NT!2C - 3Hjump?? What now? 4h easy wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I want somebody to post that 4D is choice of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I want somebody to post that 4D is choice of games.4♦, choice of games. wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I was on the same wavelength as the "two Mikes" ... and I raised 3H to 4H. It was down 3 ( although I think partner could have done a little better but still not make it. However, 4S made 11 or 12 tricks ( also 3NT made 9 or 10 tricks ). Here was the full hand ( MP scoring )... note the change in West's Spades: it is A Q... not A K ....( I changed the original post too ): [hv=pc=n&s=sk63hjt87dqt62cq4&w=saqt854hkdk7ckj96&n=sj97h652da954ct52&e=s2haq943dj83ca873&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1sp1np2cp3hp4hppp]399|300[/hv] I was thinking too that partner only held a stiff Sp and NOT the ♠ K, but I thought he would have at least 6 Hts ( although the "books" say "usually" 6 cards. So, as Mike said, I thought my ♥K would be better for that suit as trump. As it turned out, with ♠ as trump, the Ht suit provided discards for the losing Diams. Another thing, with West as declarer, his K's are protected on lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Bart and Gazilli are great conventions and hold tight to the spade king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 It was down 3 ( although I think partner could have done a little better but still not make it. Hm? Bart / Gazzilli work well here. So does not jumping into a five card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hm? Bart / Gazzilli work well here. So does not jumping into a five card suit. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 4H looks cold to me anyway. Though I agree, jumping into a 5 card suit is silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Agree with Ron, althou 11 tricks are avaible on a diamond lead, I think 10 is quite normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Agree with Ron, althou 11 tricks are avaible on a diamond lead, I think 10 is quite normal.There was a Diam lead : 2 7 A 3Next a small Ht shift: K winning on board. Upon re-examination of the patient in 4H, it appears that 10 tricks are there with the ♠-finesse working and the ♣Q dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 There was a Diam lead : 2 7 A 3Next a small Ht shift: K winning on board. Upon re-examination of the patient in 4H, it appears that 10 tricks are there with the ♠-finesse working and the ♣Q dropping. 11 C to the A,AQ of HS hook, Ace of S ditching a D, S ruffC to Kanother S ditching last DRon Cs - opps get 1H and 1 diamond.Easy! How on earth did your partner go 3 off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Which hands go 2H immediately over 1S? GF 5+H? Which hands go 1NT then 2H over 1S? Invite 5xH? Which hands go immediate 3H over 1S? Invite 6+H? Or preempt the other major by bidding the other major -- why preemptive 3H over 1S is my point. Those answers leave the hands that 1NT then 3H over 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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