bd71 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Matchpoints. Playing 2/1, relevant agreements include Ogust, "sound" 1st/2nd seat weak 2 bids, and that upper end of weak 2 is around a 10-equivalent. Is this South hand worth exploring game by using Ogust? I don't have the exact hands...would your answer change if any of the spots were stronger?[hv=pc=n&s=sqj2hkq2dkq2cjt32&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=2hp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 No. Playing sound weak 2's we're off 3 bullets at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 The diagram shows all white. It's close and depends on the agreements about suit quality. If your agreement is to open JTxxxx I would pass or maybe bid 3♥ to block opps communication.If partner is required to have at least one of the top 3 for a weak 2, than we won't miss 4 aces and I would try Ogust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Definitely not. I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Never. You are around the lowest points that could consider game, but you have the worst shape and the slowest values. If you desperately needed a swing you could try 3nt, as that is likely to be as good or better than 4♥, but really a pass is advised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I guess one can construct a hand opposite which game is good, but that requires specific layouts with specific working cards...ogust can't tell you whether his 'good hand' is a working good hand or a waste of cards. Kx AJ109xx Jx Qxx is too much for a weak 2, yet offers no play for game, while many poor hands fail at the 3 level. This is to me a choice between pass and 3♥, and my defence is good enough that I'd probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Hi, Pass. Given that we have KQ in hearts, p will have an outside value,but I dont come close to counting 10 tricks, you have # 6 heart tricks# 1-2 diamond tricks# 0-1 trick corresponding to his out side value overall this makes game less than 50% most of the time, if you happen to play short suit showing bids after a weak two, than itmay be wortwhile to give it a try, since a club single would begood news. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 No and not close. However my partner is allowed two aces for a weak two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I wouldn't explore game. If partner happens to have short ♣ we might have game, but we can't ask this using Ogust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 At pairs the issue to me is should I advance a level or not. Most of the time partner will have 2 or less S giving the opps an 8 fit they are likely to uncover if allowed at the 2 level. I do not believe we would struggle to make 110 and 140 is likely if not some good luck 170. Although my hand has defense I have no intention of defending 2♠, I bid 3♥and double from that point onward :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'd bid 3♥. But pass is close. We will normally be off 4 top tricks, even when partner has 2 aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I like pass. The hcp might be evenly spread so there's a chance that we might buy the contract. I will of course compete to 3H if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I like 3H. It is of course possible that 2H is passed out and I regret my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I like pass and gamble a penalty X if they come in; I might try 3NT if greedy for a swing, but ♥ game is so unlikely that its not worth trying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 However my partner is allowed two aces for a weak two. Thats unfortunate. Because had he just passed on this hand and allowed you to open, with Axxxxx hears and a black ace you might get to the game that will roll most of the time. But since he may or may not have 2 aces, u can never risk it with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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