mtvesuvius Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [hv=pc=n&s=s854hadakqckq7543&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1c1sp3s]133|200|Your poison?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 If "kinda" means "sort of" or almost, then I agree and would pass. After all, pd his short in spades and hasn't said anything. If "kinda" means "trivial", as in kindergarten, then I disagree; the problem is not trivial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 If "kinda" means "sort of" or almost, then I agree and would pass. After all, pd his short in spades and hasn't said anything. If "kinda" means "trivial", as in kindergarten, then I disagree; the problem is not trivial.He could easily have ♠x ♥xxxx ♦xxxx ♣xxxx so 4♣ is easy- he having 2 spades is just as likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I always pass these hands, but am beginning to think that I am too conservative. I have to admit that at the table I would almost certainly pass. i hate going for numbers more than I hate missing games that require very aggressive bidding. Having said that, I recognize that we may be missing the boat here....I mean, why can't partner hold a stiff spade and 4 little clubs? I have a lot of respect for 4♣....please tell me that LHO held AKQx xxx xx AJ109 and whacked it ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 pass.. I don't have a bid so I just don't bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣, sometimes I have extra length for this bid, sometimes I have extra strength. This could work very poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Partner did not negX, nor 2D,2H, nor C-raise (of course after 1S overcall, he may not know real clubs here fits 3-support clubs).I still hope for 3xclubs and 0-1xS -- I get a S-ruff. Do I have DSIP? I try that. No. 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Easy 4♣. By the way, partner will have a void spade more often than two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 X When I convert 4♥ to 5♣ partner will know diamonds is a possible denomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣ -- hopefully it won't get clubbed :ph34r:... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 A (hopefully) quick 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'd pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣ but I don't like it too much. I like OleBergs suggestion in that it gets diamonds to the picture cause I'm mostly worried partner might have x xxx xxxxxxx xx or similar. However I'm not ready to go to the 5 lvl in the likely event partner tries for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣, but I consider 4♦ an option. Double might have to convert five hearts into 6 clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣, but I consider 4♦ an option. Double might have to convert five hearts into 6 clubs Which might make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣ stands out. I do not feel stuck here, because 4♣ describes what I have, a jump rebid in ♣ if partner had responded. I do not understand how one can pass. Is partner supposed to balance vulnerable with ♠x,♥xxx,♦xxxxx,♣Axxx ? Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣ stands out. I do not feel stuck here, because 4♣ describes what I have, a jump rebid in ♣ if partner had responded. I do not understand how one can pass. Is partner supposed to balance vulnerable with ♠x,♥xxx,♦xxxxx,♣Axxx ? Rainer Herrmann Is he supposed to raise 4♣ to 6♣? (Mind you, I agree that pass is incomprehensible. I believe in my double, but consider 4♣ a reasonable alternative.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Is he supposed to raise 4♣ to 6♣? (Mind you, I agree that pass is incomprehensible. I believe in my double, but consider 4♣ a reasonable alternative.) No, but I would expect to get raised to 5♣. I admit freely I do not reach all good slams and at the same time avoid the bad ones.I do work on it though :) Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 presummably partner is holding♠2♥65432♦432♣9862 if you pass and♠32♥65432♦65432♣2 if you bid :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 presummably partner is holding♠2♥65432♦432♣9862 if you pass and♠32♥65432♦65432♣2 if you bid :) If I bid (Double) it will be: ♠ 32♥ 765432♦ 5432♣ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Settle for a slightly conservative 4♣. Pass?? That would be really absurd. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 4♣ stands out. I do not feel stuck here, because 4♣ describes what I have, a jump rebid in ♣ if partner had responded. I do not understand how one can pass. Is partner supposed to balance vulnerable with ♠x,♥xxx,♦xxxxx,♣Axxx ? Rainer HerrmannThis hand has an obvious bid over 1♠. The question is what hands that pass 1♠ are you hoping to cater for? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'm not stuck, 4♣! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Pass is REALLY wimpy. My first thought was to bid 5♣, but that would take partner having Axx or xxxx of clubs to be good (I am assuming that partner has a singleton spade). Bidding 4♣ should get us to 5♣ when it is right, but, as has already been pointed out above, it is unlikely to get us to 6♣ opposite x xxxx xxxx Axxx. I am not worried about going for a number, but I suppose it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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